PrePaidGSM.net Forum
Travelsim
PrePaidGSM Home National Operators International Cards Contacts Links



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old
  (#121)
DRNewcomb (Offline)
Senior Member
Prepaid Professionist
 
Posts: 1,458
Join Date: 27 Feb 2004
Location: Mississippi, USA

Country:
Default 06-07-2006, 04:25

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossman
For anyone interested, Yackie now has local numbers for several countries and several US cities too. I placed an order yesterday.
More than "several US cities". Even in south Mississippi there was at least one number in each toll center. This is looking better and better. As soon as someone actually gets his hands on one I may also jump onboard.
 Send a message via ICQ to DRNewcomb  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#122)
bones_boy (Offline)
Member
Advanced Member
 
Posts: 89
Join Date: 06 Jun 2004

Country:
Default 06-07-2006, 04:47

A lookup of several of these USA numbers on whitepages.com shows most of these numbers as landline #s, from an outfit called "Level 3 Communications". So I guess they request some available numbers from this company and have those numbers forwarded to the real cellular number (presumably in Israel)?

Or has this already been discussed?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#123)
Przemolog (Offline)
Senior Member
Prepaid Guru
 
Przemolog's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,211
Join Date: 06 Feb 2005
Location: Swidnik-home, Lublin-work

Country:
Default 06-07-2006, 10:37

Quote:
Originally Posted by andy
They can be forwarded to international mobiles for example, so will be useful to some, but still some are more expensive than the actual destination.

So, if the Israel number of the SIM was able to be called, and thus avoided the Yackie forwarding charge, then you could have a point, but that seems unlikely at the moment, so gains no advantage over a UK mobile diversion to the landline number, from inclusive minutes.
Yes, I meant forwarding to the Israeli number but I agree with you it's very unlikely at the moment.
  Send a message via Skype™ to Przemolog 
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#124)
Bossman (Offline)
Senior Member
Prepaid Guru
 
Posts: 1,226
Join Date: 22 Apr 2005
Location: Chicago

Country:
Default 06-07-2006, 11:23

I agree. They covered a lot of US cities. Including all the 10 or so Chicagoland areacodes. There are also numbers in some small towns in downstate Illinois

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRNewcomb
More than "several US cities". Even in south Mississippi there was at least one number in each toll center. This is looking better and better. As soon as someone actually gets his hands on one I may also jump onboard.


Phones: ASUS zenfone 3, Nexus 4, Lumia 650 dual sim
Sim cards: AT&T (Contract), 3 UK, Piranha Mobile
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#125)
kupe (Offline)
Senior Member
Prepaid Fan
 
Posts: 103
Join Date: 19 Jun 2006

Country:
Default 08-07-2006, 04:14

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossman
I am assuming CBW can be used just like we do with UM.
I fear CBW may not work with Yackie, since Yackie FAQs state:

Q: Is my number visible to the called person?
A: No, the number is not visible.

If Caller ID info is not sent, how would CBW know to send you a callback? Has anyone determined if CBW works with Yackie?

Dave
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#126)
Bossman (Offline)
Senior Member
Prepaid Guru
 
Posts: 1,226
Join Date: 22 Apr 2005
Location: Chicago

Country:
Default 08-07-2006, 04:48

Actually, it should work with CBW. Sending caller ID (or not) has nothing to do with it. The "real" caller ID is never sent anyway since it's a callback. What matters is that you call the DID given by CBW from any phone, and that will trigger a call to the callback number (riiing, yackie, etc.) that you specified via CBW's website.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kupe
I fear CBW may not work with Yackie, since Yackie FAQs state:

Q: Is my number visible to the called person?
A: No, the number is not visible.

If Caller ID info is not sent, how would CBW know to send you a callback?? Has anyone determined if CBW works with Yackie?

Dave


Phones: ASUS zenfone 3, Nexus 4, Lumia 650 dual sim
Sim cards: AT&T (Contract), 3 UK, Piranha Mobile
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#127)
andy (Offline)
Moderator
Prepaid Prophet
 
Posts: 2,119
Join Date: 10 Dec 2004

Country:
Default 08-07-2006, 05:26

If just using CBW pointed to the local US (or other country landline) number, the rate will be 8c, or 6c with Enlinea, and then the Yackie forward cost, so 32 or 30 cents, against 49c outgoing tariff on the SIM

Or, if the Israel number can be found out, and the CBW or Enlinea rate is cheaper than above, and if the Yackie forwarding charge is bypassed, then it could be worth doing it that way. Enlinea 21c to USA

Back with the Buytel SIM, people found out the real Liechtenstein number by sending an sms to another phone. That might work here, or it may be masked. Also, incoming calls on the Liechtenstein number were free, but that might have been because of their billing systems being in trouble by then
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#128)
kupe (Offline)
Senior Member
Prepaid Fan
 
Posts: 103
Join Date: 19 Jun 2006

Country:
Default 08-07-2006, 06:22

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossman
Actually, it should work with CBW. Sending caller ID (or not) has nothing to do with it. The "real" caller ID is never sent anyway since it's a callback. What matters is that you call the DID given by CBW from any phone, and that will trigger a call to the callback number (riiing, yackie, etc.) that you specified via CBW's website.
Bossman-

Cool- that adds to my understanding of how CBW works. At the same time, that adds to my confusion as to why my callback success rate is so poor with CBW in my recent experience from Italy as discussed in this thread:
http://www.prepaidgsm.net/forum/inde...showtopic=1367

Thanks again!

Dave

   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#129)
Przemolog (Offline)
Senior Member
Prepaid Guru
 
Przemolog's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,211
Join Date: 06 Feb 2005
Location: Swidnik-home, Lublin-work

Country:
Default 08-07-2006, 07:20

Quote:
Originally Posted by andy
Or, if the Israel number can be found out, and the CBW or Enlinea rate is cheaper than above, and if the Yackie forwarding charge is bypassed, then it could be worth doing it that way. Enlinea 21c to USA
AFAIR Cizake told that the Israeli number is for SMS only and it's barred for incoming calls due to the agreement with Orange Israel. However, I think it should be verified :whistle:
  Send a message via Skype™ to Przemolog 
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#130)
MATHA531 (Offline)
Senior Member
Prepaid Specialist
 
Posts: 869
Join Date: 15 Oct 2004

Country:
Default 08-07-2006, 07:28

Quote:
Originally Posted by kupe
I fear CBW may not work with Yackie, since Yackie FAQs state:

Q: Is my number visible to the called person?
A: No, the number is not visible.

If Caller ID info is not sent, how would CBW know to send you a callback? Has anyone determined if CBW works with Yackie?

Dave
Irrelevent...

Callbackworld gives you a dedicated number keyed to callback on the number it is keyed to....any call to that number from any phone anywhere will trigger a callback to the number that has been programmed in...it doesn't rely on knowing where the triggering call comes from...that is why some people who have difficulty from time to time with callbacks coming too quickly from callback world use a 2nd phone to make the triggering call.
  Send a message via AIM to MATHA531  
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
2002- ad libitum PrePaidGSM.net