Another Mvno In Germany

[snaimon]

Look at http://www.moxmobil.de/

PERSONALLY, this offer does not interest me but here it is. Expands the offer to Turkey only. AND surprise surprise, it uses the D1 network. 39 cents to Germany AND 11 countries including Kosovo, Iraq, Iran, Russia, Romania, Turkey - land line OR mobile.

ROAMING does not seem possible.

PERSONALLY, I would think a good calling card could beat those rates. For example,
the Enjoyprepaid EZ plan offers LOCAL calling from Germany to Romania for 10.5 US cents; cell phones are 32 US cents. Similar rates for Turkey, for example (12 US to Turkey. 7.5 to Istanbul, 24.5 to a cell phone).

Now TRUE, from the MOXMOBIL mobile phone, using a local Germany # is a waste as the local call in Germany already costs 39 e-cents. However, assuming one has access to a land line at 1 or 2 e-cents per minute local or long distance rates, using the MOXMOBIL service is MORE expensive.

19.95 for starter set with 10 E balance. Use D1 refills for this service.

Stan

[Przemolog]

Originally Posted by snaimon

Look at http://www.moxmobil.de/

PERSONALLY, this offer does not interest me but here it is. Expands the offer to Turkey only. AND surprise surprise, it uses the D1 network. 39 cents to Germany AND 11 countries including Kosovo, Iraq, Iran, Russia, Romania, Turkey - land line OR mobile.

It seems to me that this is a "immigrant-oriented offer" but not more "single-national" like "Turkish-only" Al-Yildiz

"Cheaper countries" are some of former Yugoslavia (Bosnia, Macedonia, Kosovo), some of former USSR (Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan) and Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Poland and Romania. These are home countries for many economical immigrants in Germany as well as persons of German origin who moved to the country of their ancestors. The fact that the rates to these countries are the same as German (rather high) national rates suggests that this offer is intended mainly to keep in touch with the users' home countries.

BTW, it's nice to see that rates to rest of Europe and USA are much lower that "almost 2 EUR" standard German preapid rate .

Originally Posted by snaimon

ROAMING does not seem possible.

Please check this: http://moxmobil.de/pdf.php .
I don't know German but it seems to me that it is possible.....

Originally Posted by snaimon

PERSONALLY, I would think a good calling card could beat those rates. For example,

You're right, but IMHO using calling cards is never so convenient as "standard" calling.
Moreover, even if we want to remain with "plain mobile" solution, it would be cheaper to use gt-sim instead - gt-sim rates are just 0.38 EUR mobiles and 0.26 EUR landlines to any country in the world! But I realize that gt-sim requires having a credit (or at least a debit) card, what may be sometimes a difficult condition for immigrants.

[snaimon]

IF roaming is possible, the moxmobil site does not give any rates. The reference you give is from T-Mobile, the provider. I based my remark about no roaming on the absence of any published moxmobile RATES.

I may be wrong.

Stan

[Przemolog]

Originally Posted by snaimon

IF roaming is possible, the moxmobil site does not give any rates. The reference you give is from T-Mobile, the provider. I based my remark about no roaming on the absence of any published moxmobile RATES.

I may be wrong.

Stan

The link I gave is a pdf file with the name "MoxMobil and T-Mobile XtraMove Tariff Details-2.pdf". I have no idea what T-Mobile XtraMove really is but the filename suggests that MoxMobil is just a kind of rebranding of XtraMove.

BTW, if we go to: http://www.t-mobile.de/xtramove we get a kind of activation form. It's interesting that person born before 1st Jan 1920 cannot register. Is it a reverse of the Belarussian "war veteran" tariff discussed elsewhere - an offer that discriminates the oldest Nazi veterans (and their victims at the same age as well)???

[snaimon]

I did NOT notice that PDF or your reference until you pointed it out. I stand corrected.

I have searched on teltarif and found NOTHING about XtraMove. I have added a post to the T-mobile forum with serveral links including one to a seller of MM on Ebay.de. Perhaps someone closer to the scene will enlighten us. I will let you know if there are any good answers.

Google tells me among others "XtraMove ist zun?chst befristet bis 31.05.2006. ..."
Good until May 31 2006 -- for starters. The usual way D1 operates.

It is NOT however listed as a tarif option -- just XtraClassic, XtraOne, XtraPlus and Click&Go. I doubt this is an old tarif; perhaps it is just too new. A search of the T-Mo site however comes up with 0 references -- interesting, no? There it is on the site yet when you search they tell you there is no reference!

Stan

[snaimon]

Found this under Mox searching @ teltarif. It is from Dec 1, 2005, so this is fairly new.

http://www.teltarif.de/arch/2005/kw48/s19628.html

Does NOT mention roaming, however. Mox (Mox Telecom) is apparently Irish & is in the calling card business.

Stan

[snaimon]

This discussion thread (Anti-Europa_Tarif) appeared after the publicaiton of the article in tt.

http://www.teltarif.de/forum/s19628/1-1.html

Reaction varies a bit -- Poland IS in Europe! First contributor says FINALLY (ie great offer). Others believe T-MO is still earning a pretty penny on these rates - "Da? sich die Mobilfunk-Anbieter dabei einen goldenen Hintern verdienen, mag durchaus richtig sein.

GKr"

Providers are earning gold rear ends, huh? One poster notes he prefers the GT-SIM.

Also surprise that T-MO is cooperating with a calling card seller (stooping pretty d___ low those ex-monopolists)!

Stan