Distinctly Mobile????

0700700 · 02-04-2006, 19:58

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-INTERNATIONAL-RO...1QQcmdZViewItem

* COMPLETELY FREE call diversion to UK landlines (01,02,0845/0870)

* COMPLETELY FREE call diversion to mobiles (02/Vodafone/T-Mobile/Orange/3)

FREE call diversion to 48 countries The DM SIM card even comes with 15 Euros of call credit pre-loaded on it! There is no contract or minimum term - just a simple web based payment scheme:

???

meir · 02-04-2006, 20:39

Form the picture design looks like United Mobile. But no idea about call forwarding.

snaimon · 02-04-2006, 21:19

I saw that offer also.

Here a reply from the seller to my Ebay questions:

"For rates you need to tell me which country you will be in, and which country you will be calling. Top-ups are by credit-card on the web.

If you buy, you get two numbers with the SIM: GB (+44) (voice and free international call diversion), and FL (+423) (voice, sms and outgoing CLI).

No charge to receive calls on either number."

Voice from BOTH +44 and +423? How does that work? The SIM chooses based on the country of origin -- if in UK then +44, else +423? Only my guess.

Stan

VladS · 02-04-2006, 22:03

My guess is that they setup a free UK premium rate number and forward it to the UM number. BT K-Rate numbers (such as 070059) can be forwarded pretty much anywhere in the world for free.

Przemolog · 02-04-2006, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by VladS

My guess is that they setup a free UK premium rate number and forward it to the UM number. BT K-Rate numbers (such as 070059) can be forwarded pretty much anywhere in the world for free.

Perhaps my knowledge of English has just failed but I don't understand at all what "free premium rate" may mean?
It sounds to me like self-contradiction

snaimon · 02-04-2006, 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Przemolog

It sounds to me like self-contradiction

Good catch!

NO FREE LUNCH. Somebody has to pay for PREMIUM service -- EVENTUALLY! Must be "included" in the rates somewhere? Or when invokes (uses), the PREMIUM service provider is somehow compensated for that usage.

Stan

Przemolog · 02-04-2006, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaimon

Good catch!

NO FREE LUNCH. Somebody has to pay for PREMIUM service -- EVENTUALLY! Must be "included" in the rates somewhere? Or when invokes (uses), the PREMIUM service provider is somehow compensated for that usage.

Stan

More details? Are those numbers free for the calling party like 800's? And for the receiving party (like the owner of a UM sim in the case under consideration) too?
So...both parties have to listen to ads during 95% time of each call

or, how is this stuff "financially powered"???

RTuesday · 03-04-2006, 01:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Przemolog

Perhaps my knowledge of English has just failed but I don't understand at all what "free premium rate" may mean?
It sounds to me like self-contradiction

Free to the owner (or, in this case, the sim provider). Very expensive to call (around 35p/min) and usually only reachable from the UK, if it's one of the 0701 "personal rate" numbers.

Good idea in theory, but "free diversion" from one of these UK numbers is only useful to the person being called, the caller pays more than calling a mobile.

Nothing that can't be set up yourself with any international sim and a free (to called!) "personal rate" number from people like Flextel.com. Good marketing though.

meir · 03-04-2006, 11:17

Thats correct. I have for ages number from OpenTelecom http://www.open-telecom.co.uk/070_pn2_numbers.html I don't use it, but this morning I have tried if it is still working? It worked and still forwards the call to my Czech mobile phone mumber. They charge 50p/minute, at least this is what they say on the web pages.

0700700 · 03-04-2006, 14:09

OH WELL , i thought it was a monthly subscribtion service... anyways ive asked the seller a couple of Qs myself.. see if he replies

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0700700 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 196 Join Date: 14 Nov 2005 Country:	02-04-2006, 19:58 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-INTERNATIONAL-RO...1QQcmdZViewItem * COMPLETELY FREE call diversion to UK landlines (01,02,0845/0870) * COMPLETELY FREE call diversion to mobiles (02/Vodafone/T-Mobile/Orange/3) FREE call diversion to 48 countries The DM SIM card even comes with 15 Euros of call credit pre-loaded on it! There is no contract or minimum term - just a simple web based payment scheme: ???

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meir (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 269 Join Date: 21 Feb 2006 Location: It's long story Country:	02-04-2006, 20:39 Form the picture design looks like United Mobile. But no idea about call forwarding.

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snaimon (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 898 Join Date: 17 Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA USA Country:	02-04-2006, 21:19 I saw that offer also. Here a reply from the seller to my Ebay questions: "For rates you need to tell me which country you will be in, and which country you will be calling. Top-ups are by credit-card on the web. If you buy, you get two numbers with the SIM: GB (+44) (voice and free international call diversion), and FL (+423) (voice, sms and outgoing CLI). No charge to receive calls on either number." Voice from BOTH +44 and +423? How does that work? The SIM chooses based on the country of origin -- if in UK then +44, else +423? Only my guess. Stan Phones: DASH V3 (3) Service: US T-MO post paid (2) - US T-MO prepaid (2) - UM+ - TravelSIM DE SIMYO - DE SUNSIM T-Mobile DE Calling Cards: Onesuite Enjoyprepaid AT&T MCI Mobivox

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VladS (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Pioneer Posts: 590 Join Date: 22 Jun 2004 Country:	02-04-2006, 22:03 My guess is that they setup a free UK premium rate number and forward it to the UM number. BT K-Rate numbers (such as 070059) can be forwarded pretty much anywhere in the world for free. VladS Mobile phones: iPhone 5, Blackberry 9900, Nexus S, Samsung S3322 duos Mobile data cards: Huawei E587u-5, Huawei E583c, Huawei E160 Postpaid SIMs: CA: Fido, Wind; INTL: Telna Prepaid SIMs: DE: Fonic, Lidl; AT: yesss!, bob; UK: O2; US: AT&T; RO: Orange, Vodafone; FR: b&you, Lycamobile; NL: Lycamobile; BE: Lycamobile, Jim Mobile; CL: Entel; MX: Telcel; INTL: eKit Blue, eKit Yellow Dead SIMs: too many to list

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meir (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 269 Join Date: 21 Feb 2006 Location: It's long story Country:	03-04-2006, 11:17 Thats correct. I have for ages number from OpenTelecom http://www.open-telecom.co.uk/070_pn2_numbers.html I don't use it, but this morning I have tried if it is still working? It worked and still forwards the call to my Czech mobile phone mumber. They charge 50p/minute, at least this is what they say on the web pages.

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0700700 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 196 Join Date: 14 Nov 2005 Country:	03-04-2006, 14:09 OH WELL , i thought it was a monthly subscribtion service... anyways ive asked the seller a couple of Qs myself.. see if he replies