Regarding Q-Telecom and Carrefour/Champion Mobile in Greece.

gmmour

In May 2007, Q-telecom has fully merged with TIM Hellas.
As of that date all postpaid customers have been ported to TIM Hellas and the Q-card prepaid package is the only mobile telephony product that is marketed under the "Q-telecom" brand name.
Nevertheless, Q-telecom is now just a brand name for a prepaid offer by TIM Hellas, although it is not marketed under the TIM brand. In this it matches other prepaid offers like Frog by Cosmote, which is also marketed distinctively although it is actually a Cosmote product.

The 202 09 (Q-telecom) network has closed in May 2007 and Q-telecom's spectrum is being used in the TIM network (202 10).

Thus, since Q-telecom is no longer a separate company, I do think that it should be removed from the cellphone operators' list for Greece in prepaidgsm.net and be put under the "other prepaid offers" together with Frog by Cosmote, Mo'MAD by TIM and Carrefour Mobile/Champion Mobile by Vodafone. The actual product is called Q-Card and I think that it should be listed that way, as "another prepaid offer" offered by TIM Hellas.

In other news now, TIM Hellas will be renamed to WIND Hellas on June 5th, 2007, i.e. coming Tuesday.

And, as far as it concerns Greece, you should add Carrefour/Champion Mobile by Vodafone in the "other prepaid offers" section for Greece. This prepaid offer is sold exclusively in Carrefour and Champion supermarkets (same company) around Greece, it is one of the cheapest offers around, competing directly with Frog by Cosmote and Q-card by TIM. It's innovative in the sence that it can be topped-up using regular Vodafone prepaid cards sold extensively around the country as well as on Carrefour/Champion cashiers with any amount! The website of this offer is:
http://www.carrefour.gr/mobile_champion/default_en.htm
http://www.carrefour.gr/mobile_carrefour/default_en.htm (same thing, different colours, both in English) for you to copy the offers and prices from.
Please note that this is the same product sold under a different name depending on the supermarket where you buy it from. The Marinopoulos group of companies operates its supermarkets under the Champion brand usually in central areas of cities and under the Carrefour brand when we are talking about big supermarkets and shopping centres outside in suburban areas.
Carrefour and Champion mobile is not an MVNO, it is just a Vodafone product marketed exclusively through the Carrefour Marinopoulos retail chain. It came to compete with low-cost offers like Q-card and Frog currently offered by the other two big companies.

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gmmour (Offline) Member Advanced Member Posts: 92 Join Date: 03 Oct 2006 Country:	Regarding Q-Telecom and Carrefour/Champion Mobile in Greece. - 02-06-2007, 17:57 In May 2007, Q-telecom has fully merged with TIM Hellas. As of that date all postpaid customers have been ported to TIM Hellas and the Q-card prepaid package is the only mobile telephony product that is marketed under the "Q-telecom" brand name. Nevertheless, Q-telecom is now just a brand name for a prepaid offer by TIM Hellas, although it is not marketed under the TIM brand. In this it matches other prepaid offers like Frog by Cosmote, which is also marketed distinctively although it is actually a Cosmote product. The 202 09 (Q-telecom) network has closed in May 2007 and Q-telecom's spectrum is being used in the TIM network (202 10). Thus, since Q-telecom is no longer a separate company, I do think that it should be removed from the cellphone operators' list for Greece in prepaidgsm.net and be put under the "other prepaid offers" together with Frog by Cosmote, Mo'MAD by TIM and Carrefour Mobile/Champion Mobile by Vodafone. The actual product is called Q-Card and I think that it should be listed that way, as "another prepaid offer" offered by TIM Hellas. In other news now, TIM Hellas will be renamed to WIND Hellas on June 5th, 2007, i.e. coming Tuesday. And, as far as it concerns Greece, you should add Carrefour/Champion Mobile by Vodafone in the "other prepaid offers" section for Greece. This prepaid offer is sold exclusively in Carrefour and Champion supermarkets (same company) around Greece, it is one of the cheapest offers around, competing directly with Frog by Cosmote and Q-card by TIM. It's innovative in the sence that it can be topped-up using regular Vodafone prepaid cards sold extensively around the country as well as on Carrefour/Champion cashiers with any amount! The website of this offer is: http://www.carrefour.gr/mobile_champion/default_en.htm http://www.carrefour.gr/mobile_carrefour/default_en.htm (same thing, different colours, both in English) for you to copy the offers and prices from. Please note that this is the same product sold under a different name depending on the supermarket where you buy it from. The Marinopoulos group of companies operates its supermarkets under the Champion brand usually in central areas of cities and under the Carrefour brand when we are talking about big supermarkets and shopping centres outside in suburban areas. Carrefour and Champion mobile is not an MVNO, it is just a Vodafone product marketed exclusively through the Carrefour Marinopoulos retail chain. It came to compete with low-cost offers like Q-card and Frog currently offered by the other two big companies.