UK mvno SIMs with cheap int'l calls [merged] - Page 4

dr0ss · 12-07-2009, 01:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by elshaddai

Are you trying to pay with a US or UK credit card? I have had endless problems trying to buy stuff from UK sites with a foreign credit card.

It was a UK card (Barclaycard, attached to my UK bank account), though the address on it is US. I assume they either didn't like the fact that the address wasn't really mine (it is a colleague's), or that the IP address on the browser was US, or something. As I said, the charge was authorized by Barclaycard.

The wandering around to find a SIM is what I've done in the past, and exactly what I was trying to avoid this time. Obviously, it is what I'll have to do again, but it really should have been avoidable. (If anyone knows where I should look in Manchester Airport, I'm all ears.) As for the eBay route, I hate paying for something that should be free.

elshaddai · 14-07-2009, 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr0ss

It was a UK card (Barclaycard, attached to my UK bank account), though the address on it is US. I assume they either didn't like the fact that the address wasn't really mine (it is a colleague's), or that the IP address on the browser was US, or something. As I said, the charge was authorized by Barclaycard.

If the IP address doesn't match the country of origen of the card the transaction may get rejected. They assume the card is cloned or stolen. I have had endless problems with this. I now try to use Paypal if it is accepted.

dr0ss · 15-07-2009, 08:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by elshaddai

If the IP address doesn't match the country of origen of the card the transaction may get rejected. They assume the card is cloned or stolen. I have had endless problems with this. I now try to use Paypal if it is accepted.

Normally that would be the CC company that rejects the transaction. (My US cards are the same way if I use them overseas without giving the company advance warning.) In this case my CC company was OK with the charge, Lebara and Nomi decided all on their own that I'm some kind of master criminal, using a stolen card to steal a whole 5 quid from them...

Anyway, I'm sure I'll survive. Thanks for the feedback, but really, I just wanted to vent. - DR

petkow · 15-07-2009, 08:50

Lebara, being dedicated to the immigrant market are amongst the most cautious with online CC payments. Apparantly they were inundated with chargebacks in their early days. No doubt due to numbers obtained from Nigerian card databases. SIMs with cheap international calls that come loaded with credit are easy to flog on in immigrant areas.

Malkav · 18-07-2009, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr0ss

Normally that would be the CC company that rejects the transaction. (My US cards are the same way if I use them overseas without giving the company advance warning.) In this case my CC company was OK with the charge, Lebara and Nomi decided all on their own that I'm some kind of master criminal, using a stolen card to steal a whole 5 quid from them...

Anyway, I'm sure I'll survive. Thanks for the feedback, but really, I just wanted to vent. - DR

If you need a UK sim card (un-used and un-opened) please don't hesitate to pm me...we can sort out a one for one trade!

Malkav · **Missed this one!!! -** 12-10-2009, 17:44

Vectone mobile UK

MVNO using t-mobile.....

Vectone Mobile - save money with low call rates at home and abroad

andy · 13-10-2009, 01:33

It seems to have launched a few days ago, after being in the pipeline for about two years. They now operate in 6 or 7 countries. The others have some cheap roaming, like a few minutes of free incoming, but I don't see it on here

petkow · 22-03-2010, 12:07

It is interesting to read that Lycatel (who are the people behind the MVNO Lycamobile that has been mentioned higher up in this thread) are currently being investigated in the UK. The allegation is that users of their prepaid phonecards get fewer minutes than advertised, and that there are some hidden charges which are not made clear at the time of sale.

Though these misleading practices may be considered common practice in the telecom industry, it just goes to show that if you have good evidence, and put together a decent complaint to the regulator, then these things do eventually get taken seriously. If found guilty, Lycatel can get fined 10% of its turnover. Apart from this, if they have broken consumer laws, then individual customers could even apply for refunds through the courts.

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petkow (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Pioneer Posts: 696 Join Date: 01 Aug 2006 Location: Madrid Country:	15-07-2009, 08:50 Lebara, being dedicated to the immigrant market are amongst the most cautious with online CC payments. Apparantly they were inundated with chargebacks in their early days. No doubt due to numbers obtained from Nigerian card databases. SIMs with cheap international calls that come loaded with credit are easy to flog on in immigrant areas.

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Malkav (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 267 Join Date: 09 Jun 2006 Location: Malkavian University Country:	Missed this one!!! - 12-10-2009, 17:44 Vectone mobile UK MVNO using t-mobile..... Vectone Mobile - save money with low call rates at home and abroad Current networks: Orange 3g UK, 3 pay monthly, Virgin pay as you go UK, 3UK payg, Tesco payg, Asda mobile Active phones: Blackberry Torch (02), Google Nexus one (Vodafone) Inactive Sims: Oskar Czech R, BT Genie Pay as you go UK. Spare (unused phones) NEC 616, Ericsson t68/i, Nokia 3310, Sendo m550, Mototorola v66i, Motorola a1000.lg u880, Sony Ericsson t230. Orange spv m5000, Samsung z400, Motorola SLVR (Red)!, lobster tv700, spv m700, prada phone, motorola l7e, Skype phone, siemens sl65, blackberry 8810, Nokia 6500 slide X2.

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andy (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Prophet Posts: 2,128 Join Date: 10 Dec 2004 Country:	13-10-2009, 01:33 It seems to have launched a few days ago, after being in the pipeline for about two years. They now operate in 6 or 7 countries. The others have some cheap roaming, like a few minutes of free incoming, but I don't see it on here

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petkow (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Pioneer Posts: 696 Join Date: 01 Aug 2006 Location: Madrid Country:	22-03-2010, 12:07 It is interesting to read that Lycatel (who are the people behind the MVNO Lycamobile that has been mentioned higher up in this thread) are currently being investigated in the UK. The allegation is that users of their prepaid phonecards get fewer minutes than advertised, and that there are some hidden charges which are not made clear at the time of sale. Though these misleading practices may be considered common practice in the telecom industry, it just goes to show that if you have good evidence, and put together a decent complaint to the regulator, then these things do eventually get taken seriously. If found guilty, Lycatel can get fined 10% of its turnover. Apart from this, if they have broken consumer laws, then individual customers could even apply for refunds through the courts.