GREECE: Goodbye "TIM", hello "WIND"...

EllasDevil · **GREECE: Goodbye "TIM", hello "WIND"... -** 29-05-2007, 12:04

GOODBYE ................................................AND HELLO

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It's rumored that from June 5th 2007, the TIM brand name will disappear from the Greek market place when the company rebrands to WIND.

The rebrand has not been officially confirmed by the company however it comes as no surprise as Orascom Telecom (the majority shareholder in WIND Italy) now own TIM Hellas and are currently paying TIM (Italy) for the use of their brand name.

The new domain name will be www.wind.com.gr rather than www.wind.gr as the .gr is already taken. However wind.gr was registered in 2005 indicating that this isn't a case of cyber squatting as was the case when TELESTET was rebranding to TIM only to find that leaked information lead to www.tim.gr being registered by the partner of an employee.

AdmiralAK · 29-05-2007, 17:55

From one 'italian' company to another

Effendi · 29-05-2007, 18:46

It's the second time they change brand... let's hope it's the good one!

AdmiralAK · 30-05-2007, 01:18

I hope this one sticks. Too much rebranding is bad
look at the US... In my area we had between 1999 and 2007
Cellular One --> AT&T wireless --> Cingular --> at&t mobility
Omnipoint --> Voicestream --> T-Mobile

EllasDevil · 31-05-2007, 09:51

At least in the USA, they are trying to make people aware of the AT&T brand before pulling the plug on Cingular. In Greece, customers are going to wake up and suddenly be on WIND.

Also you may notice from the first post, I have altered the date from June 1st to June 5th. The reason is that TIM have billboards at bus stops hinting that something will happen on June 5th.

Personally I always preferred the TELESTET branding to TIM but I'm open minded about WIND.

AdmiralAK · 31-05-2007, 15:04

You are correct Devil, I've been getting the 'cingular is now the new at&t' in my paper bills (and in all the commercials) for the last 6 months.

I too prefered the name telestet. What's the deal with Q? has it or will it be integrated? or will it be a separate brand like Fido (for Rogers) in Canada?

EllasDevil · 31-05-2007, 17:26

I 'believe' Q-Telecom will continue to exist as a seperate brand but purely as a prepaid product though (Q-Card).

The post paid customers of Q-Telecom were on a tarrif called Q1. Recently they were all migrated to TIM and became customers of TIM1 (same deal) leaving Q with only prepaid customers.

The Q-Telecom commercials are still showing on TV encouraging users to buy their connection packs so I assume the brand will live on after June 5th.

Gryphone · 05-06-2007, 16:12

It seems you were right. www.tim.gr redirects to www.wind.com.gr and the intro says the same. However the colours are of the Wind logo are different to those in Italy, it seems they are keeping the TIM colours.

AndreA · 12-06-2007, 16:10

well i think that the italian colours are nicer than the new greek ones

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EllasDevil (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 147 Join Date: 05 May 2004 Location: Greece Country:	GREECE: Goodbye "TIM", hello "WIND"... - 29-05-2007, 12:04 GOODBYE ................................................AND HELLO ............................................ It's rumored that from June 5th 2007, the TIM brand name will disappear from the Greek market place when the company rebrands to WIND. The rebrand has not been officially confirmed by the company however it comes as no surprise as Orascom Telecom (the majority shareholder in WIND Italy) now own TIM Hellas and are currently paying TIM (Italy) for the use of their brand name. The new domain name will be www.wind.com.gr rather than www.wind.gr as the .gr is already taken. However wind.gr was registered in 2005 indicating that this isn't a case of cyber squatting as was the case when TELESTET was rebranding to TIM only to find that leaked information lead to www.tim.gr being registered by the partner of an employee. Last edited by EllasDevil; 31-05-2007 at 09:46.. Reason: Changed date from 1/6/2007 to 5/6/2007...

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AdmiralAK (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 190 Join Date: 19 Jul 2004 Location: Who knows?! Country:	29-05-2007, 17:55 From one 'italian' company to another Club Admiralty - website with stuff about me Current Prepaid: None Older Prepaid: AT&T wireless; TracFone; Telestet; Vodafone GR; Fido; SFR; T-mobile US; Tuyo, Cosmote Postpaid: at&t

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Effendi (Offline) The great Dictator! Prepaid Prophet Posts: 2,487 Join Date: 13 Jan 2004 Location: Trieste/Trst Country:	29-05-2007, 18:46 It's the second time they change brand... let's hope it's the good one! Working Prepaids: IT: Wind, Vodafone IT, UNO Mobile; SM: Prima; UK: 3, Virgin; INT: TravelSIM, Truphone. Deceased Prepaids: CZ: Oskar, Eurotel; SK: Orange; DE: E-Plus, Aldi, Simyo; GE: Geocell; AM: Armentel; PL: Heyah, Plus; LT: Tele2; LV: Amigo; EE: Elisa; UA: Kyivstar; NZ: Vodafone; INT: UM, UM+, ICQSim. GSM/3G Phones: Nokia Lumia 630 dual sim

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AdmiralAK (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 190 Join Date: 19 Jul 2004 Location: Who knows?! Country:	30-05-2007, 01:18 I hope this one sticks. Too much rebranding is bad look at the US... In my area we had between 1999 and 2007 Cellular One --> AT&T wireless --> Cingular --> at&t mobility Omnipoint --> Voicestream --> T-Mobile Club Admiralty - website with stuff about me Current Prepaid: None Older Prepaid: AT&T wireless; TracFone; Telestet; Vodafone GR; Fido; SFR; T-mobile US; Tuyo, Cosmote Postpaid: at&t

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EllasDevil (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 147 Join Date: 05 May 2004 Location: Greece Country:	31-05-2007, 09:51 At least in the USA, they are trying to make people aware of the AT&T brand before pulling the plug on Cingular. In Greece, customers are going to wake up and suddenly be on WIND. Also you may notice from the first post, I have altered the date from June 1st to June 5th. The reason is that TIM have billboards at bus stops hinting that something will happen on June 5th. Personally I always preferred the TELESTET branding to TIM but I'm open minded about WIND.

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AdmiralAK (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 190 Join Date: 19 Jul 2004 Location: Who knows?! Country:	31-05-2007, 15:04 You are correct Devil, I've been getting the 'cingular is now the new at&t' in my paper bills (and in all the commercials) for the last 6 months. I too prefered the name telestet. What's the deal with Q? has it or will it be integrated? or will it be a separate brand like Fido (for Rogers) in Canada? Club Admiralty - website with stuff about me Current Prepaid: None Older Prepaid: AT&T wireless; TracFone; Telestet; Vodafone GR; Fido; SFR; T-mobile US; Tuyo, Cosmote Postpaid: at&t

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EllasDevil (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 147 Join Date: 05 May 2004 Location: Greece Country:	31-05-2007, 17:26 I 'believe' Q-Telecom will continue to exist as a seperate brand but purely as a prepaid product though (Q-Card). The post paid customers of Q-Telecom were on a tarrif called Q1. Recently they were all migrated to TIM and became customers of TIM1 (same deal) leaving Q with only prepaid customers. The Q-Telecom commercials are still showing on TV encouraging users to buy their connection packs so I assume the brand will live on after June 5th.

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Gryphone (Offline) Member Advanced Member Posts: 61 Join Date: 30 Jul 2006 Location: Hamburg/Cologne Country:	05-06-2007, 16:12 It seems you were right. www.tim.gr redirects to www.wind.com.gr and the intro says the same. However the colours are of the Wind logo are different to those in Italy, it seems they are keeping the TIM colours. Active Prepaid SIMs: United Mobile; (RC) China Mobile; (USA) TúYo; (D) Loop, Callya, Simyo; (A) Klax; (I) Wind; (B) Ay Yildiz Former Prepaid SIMs: (RC) IF; (D) Free&Easy, Xtra; (A) Yesss; (UK) Pay&Go; (E) Movistar; (IS) Frelsi Mobiles in use: Sagem my101X, Siemens M50, Nokia 6800, Siemens M65, Motorola E770, Samsung SGH-Z500, Nokia 9500 Previous Mobiles: Nokia 5130, Motorola V3688, Sagem myX-1, Siemens M55, NEC e313, SonyEricsson T200, Motorola V980, Siemens C45, Motorola V600

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AndreA (Offline) Administrator Prepaid Genius Posts: 1,650 Join Date: 13 Jan 2004 Location: Florence, Italy Country:	12-06-2007, 16:10 well i think that the italian colours are nicer than the new greek ones ANTPEAΣ AΠO THN ΦΛΩPENTIA My Phones: iPhone 2G, E65, N70, P910 DVB-H, A835, 6630, 7600, 6210, S55, T39 "Working" PrePaids: IT: Wind, H3G, Vodafone, Tim, CoopVoce, Poste Mobile, Telepass Mobile, Uno Mobile - CH: OrangeClick - RSM: Prima Easy - UK: O2, H3G - INT: United Mobile, TravelSim, ICQ SIM "Deceased" PrePaids: IT: Blu - AT: H3G - FR: Itineris - ES: Yoigo - GR: Cosmote, Frog - HR: Tele2 - UK: Virgin, Orange TO: UCall - NZ: Vodafone - IN: Hutch - CAN: Fido - USA: T-Mobile - INT: Travelfone, CallKey, Globalsim, HopMobile, GT, 09, Mobal, Yackiemobile ITALIAN TLC BLOG