Aol Germany -> Telecom Italia

AndreA · 18-09-2006, 14:24

Dan Bieler

Telecom Italia becomes Germany's second-largest broadband operator
Telecom Italia has announced its intention to acquire AOL Germany for ?675m in cash from Time Warner (we estimate about 1x revenues). The deal concerns only the access business of AOL Germany, not the portal operations. AOL Germany has about 1.1m DSL and 1.3m narrowband subscribers. The deal is expected to close in four to six months after receiving customary regulatory approval.

Comment: The announcement to acquire AOL Germany comes just days after Telecom Italia's announcement that it is to focus more on content delivery through its fixed line division. We do not view the AOL Germany acquisition as an integral part of this new strategy - although it could prepare the ground for such a scenario. AOL Germany will merge with Telecom Italia's existing German operation, Hansenet, which operates on a nationwide basis under the 'Alice' brand.

By combining Hansenet and AOL Germany, Telecom Italia becomes the second-largest provider of broadband access, practically in line with DSL reseller United Internet, with about 2m DSL customers, but well behind Deutsche Telekom, which had 6.4m DSL connections (excluding resale) in H1 2006.

The move cements Hansenet as a leading communications provider in Germany. But we believe that the integration of the AOL customer base will be a real challenge. As part of the acquisition, a five-year partnership was signed, under which AOL will provide co-branded audience services and content on a joint web portal for all of Telecom Italia's residential subscribers in Germany and will handle all online advertising sales.

We are sceptical whether this is a wise move. AOL Germany has a different history and culture to Hansenet. More importantly, over the last few years the brand of AOL Germany has not had the same pulling power as 'Alice'. Whilst AOL Germany no doubt brings expertise in online advertising, we are less certain that it is in a position to operate a portal that caters to the tastes of existing Alice customers.

Alice does not operate a fully-fledged portal in the traditional sense, but only a very functional ?control panel?. We would argue that this is part of its attraction. Whilst Hansenet must preserve the kind of service AOL Germany's customers are used to in order to control churn, the company should be carefully not to irritate Alice customers with an ?all singing, all dancing? portal.

The move could of course be the preparation for a more convergent positioning of Hansenet, including the development of a triple or quadruple-play offering. In this sense, the acquisition would overlap with Telecom Italia's reorientation. However, at this point, the exact strategy for Telecom Italia's European broadband activities remains unclear, especially given the abrupt departure of Telecom Italia's Chairman Marco Tronchetti Provera last Friday.

http://www.ovum.com/news/euronews.asp?id=4872

Triband81 · 19-09-2006, 20:22

Let me add that Freenet made several competing offers for AOL Germany over the weekend but the AOL board of directors decided that Telecom Italia put the better offer on the table.

Secondly, HanseNet's Alice DSL is limited to several large regions such as:
Berlin/Potsdam, Munich, Stuttgart/Karlsruhe, Ruhrgebiet (Essen/D?sseldorf/Dortmund/Bielefeld/Duisburg/M?lheim a.d. Ruhr/Hagen/Witten), Rostock und - and very recently - Hannover.

Their model/spokesperson is the Italian model Vanessa Hessler:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Hessler

AndreA · 20-09-2006, 08:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triband81

Let me add that Freenet made several competing offers for AOL Germany over the weekend but the AOL board of directors decided that Telecom Italia put the better offer on the table.

Well, I have some bad ghost about Telecom Italia and Aol....

Quote:

Their model/spokesperson is the Italian model Vanessa Hessler

My girlfriend?

:P :P

Effendi · 20-09-2006, 09:12

Curious that in Germany they "use" an Italian hottie (even if with clear German/American origins), while in Italy they mainly used latin-american ones...

anyway Vanessa is the model for Alice also in France...

The old model in Italy was this one here...

Much better!

AndreA · 20-09-2006, 09:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Effendi

Curious that in Germany they "use" an Italian hottie (even if with clear German/American origins), while in Italy they mainly used latin-american ones...

this is a pity... 'coz i love Vanessa

Triband81 · 20-09-2006, 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndreA

My girlfriend?

:P :P

Nope, sorry but she's mine

AndreA · 21-09-2006, 07:53

ok triband... you are a dead man :devil:

:P

Triband81 · 21-09-2006, 18:54

Ok, meet me in Trieste when I come there in October and we can have a friendly PPGSM.net match there to see who gets her

!!

AndreA · 22-09-2006, 14:01

well... i'll be the winner!

Triband81 · 22-09-2006, 19:47

And you're basing that assumption upon what

?

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AndreA (Offline) Administrator Prepaid Genius Posts: 1,650 Join Date: 13 Jan 2004 Location: Florence, Italy Country:	18-09-2006, 14:24 Dan Bieler Telecom Italia becomes Germany's second-largest broadband operator Telecom Italia has announced its intention to acquire AOL Germany for ?675m in cash from Time Warner (we estimate about 1x revenues). The deal concerns only the access business of AOL Germany, not the portal operations. AOL Germany has about 1.1m DSL and 1.3m narrowband subscribers. The deal is expected to close in four to six months after receiving customary regulatory approval. Comment: The announcement to acquire AOL Germany comes just days after Telecom Italia's announcement that it is to focus more on content delivery through its fixed line division. We do not view the AOL Germany acquisition as an integral part of this new strategy - although it could prepare the ground for such a scenario. AOL Germany will merge with Telecom Italia's existing German operation, Hansenet, which operates on a nationwide basis under the 'Alice' brand. By combining Hansenet and AOL Germany, Telecom Italia becomes the second-largest provider of broadband access, practically in line with DSL reseller United Internet, with about 2m DSL customers, but well behind Deutsche Telekom, which had 6.4m DSL connections (excluding resale) in H1 2006. The move cements Hansenet as a leading communications provider in Germany. But we believe that the integration of the AOL customer base will be a real challenge. As part of the acquisition, a five-year partnership was signed, under which AOL will provide co-branded audience services and content on a joint web portal for all of Telecom Italia's residential subscribers in Germany and will handle all online advertising sales. We are sceptical whether this is a wise move. AOL Germany has a different history and culture to Hansenet. More importantly, over the last few years the brand of AOL Germany has not had the same pulling power as 'Alice'. Whilst AOL Germany no doubt brings expertise in online advertising, we are less certain that it is in a position to operate a portal that caters to the tastes of existing Alice customers. Alice does not operate a fully-fledged portal in the traditional sense, but only a very functional ?control panel?. We would argue that this is part of its attraction. Whilst Hansenet must preserve the kind of service AOL Germany's customers are used to in order to control churn, the company should be carefully not to irritate Alice customers with an ?all singing, all dancing? portal. The move could of course be the preparation for a more convergent positioning of Hansenet, including the development of a triple or quadruple-play offering. In this sense, the acquisition would overlap with Telecom Italia's reorientation. However, at this point, the exact strategy for Telecom Italia's European broadband activities remains unclear, especially given the abrupt departure of Telecom Italia's Chairman Marco Tronchetti Provera last Friday. http://www.ovum.com/news/euronews.asp?id=4872 ANTPEAΣ AΠO THN ΦΛΩPENTIA My Phones: iPhone 2G, E65, N70, P910 DVB-H, A835, 6630, 7600, 6210, S55, T39 "Working" PrePaids: IT: Wind, H3G, Vodafone, Tim, CoopVoce, Poste Mobile, Telepass Mobile, Uno Mobile - CH: OrangeClick - RSM: Prima Easy - UK: O2, H3G - INT: United Mobile, TravelSim, ICQ SIM "Deceased" PrePaids: IT: Blu - AT: H3G - FR: Itineris - ES: Yoigo - GR: Cosmote, Frog - HR: Tele2 - UK: Virgin, Orange TO: UCall - NZ: Vodafone - IN: Hutch - CAN: Fido - USA: T-Mobile - INT: Travelfone, CallKey, Globalsim, HopMobile, GT, 09, Mobal, Yackiemobile ITALIAN TLC BLOG

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Triband81 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Pioneer Posts: 529 Join Date: 01 Dec 2004 Location: Köln Country:	19-09-2006, 20:22 Let me add that Freenet made several competing offers for AOL Germany over the weekend but the AOL board of directors decided that Telecom Italia put the better offer on the table. Secondly, HanseNet's Alice DSL is limited to several large regions such as: Berlin/Potsdam, Munich, Stuttgart/Karlsruhe, Ruhrgebiet (Essen/D?sseldorf/Dortmund/Bielefeld/Duisburg/M?lheim a.d. Ruhr/Hagen/Witten), Rostock und - and very recently - Hannover. Their model/spokesperson is the Italian model Vanessa Hessler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Hessler

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Effendi (Offline) The great Dictator! Prepaid Prophet Posts: 2,487 Join Date: 13 Jan 2004 Location: Trieste/Trst Country:	20-09-2006, 09:12 Curious that in Germany they "use" an Italian hottie (even if with clear German/American origins), while in Italy they mainly used latin-american ones... anyway Vanessa is the model for Alice also in France... The old model in Italy was this one here... Much better! Working Prepaids: IT: Wind, Vodafone IT, UNO Mobile; SM: Prima; UK: 3, Virgin; INT: TravelSIM, Truphone. Deceased Prepaids: CZ: Oskar, Eurotel; SK: Orange; DE: E-Plus, Aldi, Simyo; GE: Geocell; AM: Armentel; PL: Heyah, Plus; LT: Tele2; LV: Amigo; EE: Elisa; UA: Kyivstar; NZ: Vodafone; INT: UM, UM+, ICQSim. GSM/3G Phones: Nokia Lumia 630 dual sim

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AndreA (Offline) Administrator Prepaid Genius Posts: 1,650 Join Date: 13 Jan 2004 Location: Florence, Italy Country:	21-09-2006, 07:53 ok triband... you are a dead man :devil: :P ANTPEAΣ AΠO THN ΦΛΩPENTIA My Phones: iPhone 2G, E65, N70, P910 DVB-H, A835, 6630, 7600, 6210, S55, T39 "Working" PrePaids: IT: Wind, H3G, Vodafone, Tim, CoopVoce, Poste Mobile, Telepass Mobile, Uno Mobile - CH: OrangeClick - RSM: Prima Easy - UK: O2, H3G - INT: United Mobile, TravelSim, ICQ SIM "Deceased" PrePaids: IT: Blu - AT: H3G - FR: Itineris - ES: Yoigo - GR: Cosmote, Frog - HR: Tele2 - UK: Virgin, Orange TO: UCall - NZ: Vodafone - IN: Hutch - CAN: Fido - USA: T-Mobile - INT: Travelfone, CallKey, Globalsim, HopMobile, GT, 09, Mobal, Yackiemobile ITALIAN TLC BLOG

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Triband81 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Pioneer Posts: 529 Join Date: 01 Dec 2004 Location: Köln Country:	21-09-2006, 18:54 Ok, meet me in Trieste when I come there in October and we can have a friendly PPGSM.net match there to see who gets her !!

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AndreA (Offline) Administrator Prepaid Genius Posts: 1,650 Join Date: 13 Jan 2004 Location: Florence, Italy Country:	22-09-2006, 14:01 well... i'll be the winner! ANTPEAΣ AΠO THN ΦΛΩPENTIA My Phones: iPhone 2G, E65, N70, P910 DVB-H, A835, 6630, 7600, 6210, S55, T39 "Working" PrePaids: IT: Wind, H3G, Vodafone, Tim, CoopVoce, Poste Mobile, Telepass Mobile, Uno Mobile - CH: OrangeClick - RSM: Prima Easy - UK: O2, H3G - INT: United Mobile, TravelSim, ICQ SIM "Deceased" PrePaids: IT: Blu - AT: H3G - FR: Itineris - ES: Yoigo - GR: Cosmote, Frog - HR: Tele2 - UK: Virgin, Orange TO: UCall - NZ: Vodafone - IN: Hutch - CAN: Fido - USA: T-Mobile - INT: Travelfone, CallKey, Globalsim, HopMobile, GT, 09, Mobal, Yackiemobile ITALIAN TLC BLOG

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Triband81 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Pioneer Posts: 529 Join Date: 01 Dec 2004 Location: Köln Country:	22-09-2006, 19:47 And you're basing that assumption upon what ?