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Default 24-11-2007, 15:09

I agree. These sims are very risky for customers. As Prezmelog mentioned, they can raise prices, or just cease to exist. Both of these happened to me with freeGlobalsim. I had already made up my mind not to spend a dime to purchase any more of these global sims. Unless if there was no initial cost for the sim. And I'll just purchase topup up as needed. So, it's a good thing that they (yackie and Maxroam) were giving out free sims. I really can't see anyone shelling out the initial costs to purchase these sims out right (Yackie and maxroam probably saw that too). For exampe, yacke and celtrek at $49, maxroam at 29 euro. There is just too much uncertaintly at the moment for me to take that chance.


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Default 24-11-2007, 21:48

we can give the Sim for free.....and just use the first top up for cover the initial cost, BUT what about a distributor network ?

They will not make any commission on their SIM 'sales, and if we give them the SIM for free, dammed, we will not have enough factories for producing all SIM requested by the Distribs.....who will drop them away

What about the DID ( for our business model; who need to be covered too, at last for fews months in case if the customer do not use his card)

Maybe the best solution is to give the SIM for free and to charge few $ for the DID as monthly basis, one month unpaid or unused, and the customer lose his DID, he pay again, he have a new one, or he reserve his DID for a period of 3/6/9/12 months

We can have many scenario.....no one should be the UNIVERSAL SOLUTION

And....our SIM cost 39 $.....not 49$, for 49 $ you have 10 $ credit


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Default 24-11-2007, 21:51

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I agree. These sims are very risky for customers. As Prezmelog mentioned, they can raise prices, or just cease to exist. Both of these happened to me with freeGlobalsim. I had already made up my mind not to spend a dime to purchase any more of these global sims. Unless if there was no initial cost for the sim. And I'll just purchase topup up as needed. So, it's a good thing that they (yackie and Maxroam) were giving out free sims. I really can't see anyone shelling out the initial costs to purchase these sims out right (Yackie and maxroam probably saw that too). For exampe, yacke and celtrek at $49, maxroam at 29 euro. There is just too much uncertaintly at the moment for me to take that chance.
Your only option would be to buy a um+ sim, setup your own callback system and setup your own voip did numbers.
Always keep 2 sims from 2 different providers on 2 networks. If 1 goes out of business you just reconfige your callback and the forward of the did number to the other card.
Also the did numbers are your own so no problem when a prepaid provider goes out of business, meaning you also loose the did number.

Negative side of do it yourself is that it needs some work and knowledge to confige your own pbxes.com server.

The choice is yours.
   
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Default 24-11-2007, 22:36

@YackieMobile

... it is not the 49 bucks, and it is not that you should not ask for covered value on the SIM. I and other customers do not care about 49 dollars, BUT make the system work and do not change all 4 weeks the game rules.

What makes me realy pi...d off is that I have now a new Iceland number, gave it to my customers had to explain why my old 00447624... number is dead and so on ... I mean I do want make business with you guys, I buy a SIM pay money for it, I accept your prices and 4 weeks later you change the prices. Please don't tell me know the USD is falling etc. etc., I don't care about ... the Dollar isn't weak since two days this issue is going on now since nearly 4 years constantly and you had time to build security currency positions to cover currency risks.

That is not the way doing succsefull business, i want a long term business relation and no 2 week partnership. Maybe I want to much or you guys should get out of the Beta stadium. You have one big bonus I do really like, it is your availability here and the availability on the web page (chat) and the nearly fast reaction, that gives a kind of security feeling.

How does the prices now do look like? Raised or not raised?

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Default 24-11-2007, 22:37

Buytel and Manx have indeed gone kaput (any talk still out there of resurrecting these Isle of Man cards????)...UM has been pretty stable although for the life of me I don't understand who was ultimately responsible for the humongeous increases in termination fees that ended up being the ruination of the +423 service....the Jersey service seems to be okay...both O9 and the Estonian cards seem to be stable although huge termination fees do hurt their use.....

Yackie seems to be piggybacking on O9 and of course as has been noted ad nauseum, the lack of service in Switzerland is a big big drawback.

Right now, today, I would go with UM+44 service and continue to hope for the best.
   
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Default 25-11-2007, 15:10

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The rate table was updated by yackie.
Now i observed something very strange. I thought the forward from the DID would be always charged with 0.29 US$. Plus the incoming charge in the non-free incoming countries.

BUT: They seem to charge randomly different amounts for the forward depending on where you are.

randomly choosen examples:

Russia
Incoming call by using your Free incoming number (354) : $ 0.5
Incoming call by using your selected local Number : $0.74 + $0.5

Mexico
Incoming call by using your Free incoming number (354) : $ 1.3
Incoming call by using your selected local Number : $1.54 + $1.3

Germany
Incoming call by using your Free incoming number (354) : FREE
Incoming call by using your selected local Number : $0.29

Thailand
Incoming call by using your Free incoming number (354) : $ 0.8
Incoming call by using your selected local Number : $1.04 + $0.8

So that makes a range from 0,29 US$ to 1,54 US$ for the forward. What's this crap about? I'm eager to find out the reason.

Chris
I confirm.......Human error, in fact the + $*,00 is already include

when we have a RPP surcharge in the countries, you have the Free incoming who can not be free, we just use the profit made in this incoming call for decreasing your cost for the RPP, and this is cost for us, we dont charge any Mark up, and with the DID, it`s simple, Surtax + 0,29 $

It is just a Presentation error, the rates tables is good


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Default 25-11-2007, 15:16

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I just took a closer look on the rate table.

@YackieMobile, have you guys honestly raised the prices within the EU without notifying the customers???

Calls from HU to DE and UK have been raised up 10 US Cent. I´m little confused and I feel a little f...ed over to be honest, since I have the SIM card I´ve been not charged the regular price which was 0,69 US cent, so this 0,79 US cent crap was the whole time in your system implemented and you do charge it constantly.

Why doing business this way???

Hell yeah! You have changed the prices and no info at all!

Why are you doing this??? DE->DE is now 0,89 US cent what the hell happened? Since when does the oil price infect the roaming prices?

You do charge now for a call from A to DE 0,89 US (0,601 Euro Cent) cent, why for jesus christ should I use the YM SIM when the outgoing calls are now cheaper when I do them through my home operators SIM???

I´m so stupid, I really thought you guys will do a way better job than these Callkey midgets. Why don´t you offer real value instead just raise prices after making a good show.
Hi Mister......

This mystake will be fixed next week, with also a new Rates Tables for Dec 1

Have a great BBQ.....


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Default 25-11-2007, 15:52

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Hi Mister......

This mystake will be fixed Monday morning, with also a new Rates Tables

Have a great BBQ.....
At the moment, as pointed out, some of your outgoing published rates are 10 to 30% higher than your supplier, and significantly above the Eurotariff available to anyone in Europe.

Your remarks appear to suggest that the published rates are the mistake, but the posts of John Doe suggest that these higher charges have actually been billed, and perhaps even for some time.

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I took today a closer look on the per minute prices, to my surprise all calls I made until today had been billed with completely other prices than shown by the rate calculator.
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, since I have the SIM card I´ve been not charged the regular price which was 0,69 US cent, so this 0,79 US cent crap was the whole time in your system implemented and you do charge it constantly.

Why doing business this way???

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Default 25-11-2007, 16:13

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Hi Mister......

This mystake will be fixed Monday morning, with also a new Rates Tables

Have a great BBQ.....
... come on have I hurt you? I honestly apologies for being possibly rude.

The thing I really do not understand is the following, why are you implement new prices in the web interface when you don´t gave the new quotes green light?

It is a BIG plus point that you keep up the conversation in this forum, it is BIG plus point that you change things. No question about that. It !would! be very sad if you !would! think that customers won´t look after purchased goods.

Just a idea from me why don´t you implement a service update site on yackiemobile.com to avoid situations like this? Small ad hoc infos (before you do changes), just to make sure that customers understand what is going on.

After the Callkey crash everybody is nervous and is asking who will be the next.

So take my apologise if this was an mistake and not thought this way
   
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Default 25-11-2007, 16:39

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Hi Mister......

This mystake will be fixed Monday morning, with also a new Rates Tables

Have a great BBQ.....
... come on have I hurt you? I honestly apologies for being possibly rude.

The thing I really do not understand is the following, why are you implement new prices in the web interface when you don´t gave the new quotes green light?

It is a BIG plus point that you keep up the conversation in this forum, it is BIG plus point that you change things. No question about that. It !would! be very sad if you !would! think that customers won´t look after purchased goods.

Just a idea from me why don´t you implement a service update site on yackiemobile.com to avoid situations like this? Small ad hoc infos (before you do changes), just to make sure that customers understand what is going on.

After the Callkey crash everybody is nervous and is asking who will be the next.

So take my apologise if this was an mistake and not thought this way

The prices billed was the good one, we will decrease the price, for just respecting the Prices Showed to our Web site, before we made the change

09 charge a set up price, We dont....( but they charge us )

Hungary to Germany need to be billed 0,89 $ per minutes, but
we will decrease to $0,69

DE to DE ....we will also decrease, and we will also change the call to a land line by decreasing the rate for 0,10 $ to most of the countries


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