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China and its friend Albania disjoined the Soviet block in the 1960's. Until 1990 Albania didn't allow even "socialist" tourists. As to Cuba, I don't exactly what ttravel restriction really were. However, the large cost of travel was prohibitive by itself. Are you kidding? Switzerland was considered to have been the same "rotten" West as NATO/EEC members... |
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22-12-2006, 17:42
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It was visible especially if to consider that before 1988 there were only 2 road and 3 railway border crossings between Poland and USSR available for public use (the border length was over 1200 km). Well, something like this was also necessary here in the 1970's to cross the border with "dowód osobisty"... |
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Which ones? One is surely Brest, and which was another road crossing? Anyway, it's perfectly clear why USSR inhabitants were not allowed to easily visit 'socialist' countries. From the Soviet point of view, people in these countries lived much better than Soviet people, and they had much more 'rotten' things in their lifestyles that made them closer to the 'rotten' West. It was 'half West', so it would have ruined the Soviet lifestyle itself if it had been too close. Also, if they allowed Soviet people to easily travel to Poland or to GDR, then millions and millions from here would have bought all the goods they find abroad, making the situation much worse that it was in 1972 with GDR-Poland. Remember, in 70s and especially in 80s Soviet people had much money that they could not spend (deficit). Money exchange limitation? Well, it's a problem, but there's always used to be the black market. It's known you could exchange soviet rubles to crones or zlotys and back in hotels etc., even though it was illegal and the rates were much worse than in official banks. From the other hand, it was not very difficult to visit USSR for people from the West in 70s and 80s, here were many Finnish 'vodka tourists' in that time, for example, or even Finnish workers building some hotels and other things. Also, here were West German, French, Italian or even American tourists... Not millions of them, but quite enough to create special layer of services for them (hotels, shops selling western goods for dollars etc.). |
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24-12-2006, 12:16
I guess people from EU need visas to enter any country located in the South Caucasus (may be except of Georgia) or in Central Asia, but this might be easier to get than a Russian visa, for example. I've heard some of these countries allowed Internet visas (you submit a form via the Internet and then you would take real visa on arrival if it's approved) or visas at the border. Belarussian visa... well, I'm afraid it's needed, and the border between Belarus and Russia that actually does not exist might put a foreigner into trouble. Anyway, I can find this info for sure, if you need.
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24-12-2006, 12:44
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Oh, that's so sad. Don't you have any other options? I hope there's still something that you could use. Have you ever considered trains? AFAIK there's one going from Venice to Moscow, may be it's not that expensive. |
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24-12-2006, 13:21
Well, talking about visas I've decided to get some info on exUSSR visa regulations. Here are the links.
Belarus - http://www.mfa.gov.by/eng/index.php?d=consul&id=3 Ukraine - http://www.mfa.gov.ua/mfa/en/509.htm Moldova - http://www.mfa.md/consular-information/ Armenia - http://www.armeniaforeignministry.am...isawaiver.html Azerbaijan - http://www.mfa.gov.az/eng/consular/visa.shtml (no countries list) Georgia - http://www.mfa.gov.ge/index.php?sec_id=148&lang_id=ENG Kazakhstan - http://www.mfa.kz/eng/index.php?cons=1&selected=8 Uzbekistan - http://www.mfa.uz/modules.php?op=mod...tid=157&page=1 Tajikistan - http://www.mid.tj/article_details.php?id=111 (in Russian) Kyrgyzstan - the site of their Ministry of Foreign Affairs is currently down Turkmenistan - seems there's no site of their Ministry of Foreign Affairs at all Look, Georgia seems to be visa free for EU and the States. Moldova does not require an invitation for EU people to get their visa and it's visa free for Poland, Romania and Lithuania. Armenia allows Internet visa. Azerbaijan allows getting visas at the Baku international airport. EU citizens are probably able to get Tajikistan visas at Dushanbe airport, but I'm not sure. No simplifications with Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan and nothing is clear with Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan. |
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24-12-2006, 14:51
Well, next summer I'm planning to visit Armenia and Georgia, it would be great if I just need visa for Armenia and I can get it through internet!
Anyway, train from Venice to Moscow should be VERY expensive and VERY long, it's surely much better to fly to Vilnius/Riga and take a train there... Deceased Prepaids: CZ: Oskar, Eurotel; SK: Orange; DE: E-Plus, Aldi, Simyo; GE: Geocell; AM: Armentel; PL: Heyah, Plus; LT: Tele2; LV: Amigo; EE: Elisa; UA: Kyivstar; NZ: Vodafone; INT: UM, UM+, ICQSim. GSM/3G Phones: Nokia Lumia 630 dual sim |
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24-12-2006, 14:56
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If one wants to leave Turkmenistan they have to get permission from Turkmanbassay. He is the only one who will give permission to leave. It is one of the most difficult countries I have ever been in. You have to regestier with the Foreign Affairs Minstry. Of course this is with most former Soviet Block Countries. Kyrgyzstan is quite simple to get a visa. just apply at the Embassay and have it in three days. I have seen ppl get the visa at the airport. Cost is unknown. Kazakhstan is also quite simple to get visa. I don't think you can get one at the airport. Hope this helps. d Phones Gsm Iphone6+ |
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May be you are right... Have you tried to calculate the cost for such the route? |
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