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snaimon · 29-05-2006, 20:16

I am somewhat confused. The manual says this phone is 900 and 1800. I am asking myself how you could have used this phone in the US? US only has 850 and 1900. PERSONALLY, I don't think you have the 6800 but a counterfeit. If you can't find any networks in the manual network selection, then I think that means the receiver for those frequencies is not working or does not exist.

Good luck.

Stan

snaimon · 29-05-2006, 20:27

OK. 2nd try. There are 2 versions of the 6800, one for N America and one for Asia/Europe. I FIRST downloaded the manual for the Asia/Europe version.

The North American phone is a dual band, 850/1900. That will not work in Europe. Sorry. I think you'll have to buy yourself an unlocked phone there.

Stan

snaimon · 29-05-2006, 20:29

From a 6800 on sale on Ebay:

NOKIA 6800 GSM Phone.

This phone Can be used with any GSM service provider such as: Cingular, T-Mobile, AT&T, and ALL OTHER GSM networks around the world which support 850/1900 Mhz.

.........................

MATHA531 · 29-05-2006, 23:25

This is an ongoing problem with nokia phones...they use the same model number for their world phones and the phones they cripple to make cingular happy and give them 850 service at the expense of 900 service...they make dual bands with 850/1900 for use in North America and 900/1800 for use in the rest of the civilized and uncivilized world.

No matter...luckily op is in Italy...attention op go into any mobile phone store and ask for an unlocked dual band phone...they sell them in Italy for around ?30...you will see the UM sim will work perfectly.

Sorry you had this trouble but it is a by product of the inability, probably for good reasons, of the USA to standardize with the rest of the gsm world 15 years ago.

snaimon · 30-05-2006, 00:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATHA531

Sorry you had this trouble but it is a by product of the inability, probably for good reasons, of the USA to standardize with the rest of the gsm world 15 years ago.

OT but perhaps most appropriate..........

Age of earth ~= 6000 years as taught in our indigenous CREATIONIST US schools and texts, inches instead of meters, driving on the RIGHT side of the road instead of the LEFT (GB, AU are probably the few SANE ones left), and now W's pullout from Kyoto, disdain for world court, insistence that global warming is NOT happening, rendering, Club "Git," W's go-it-alone preemptive wars, flouting the US constitution.....

Well, need I say MORE? You really expected the US to conform to world GSM standards? Let alone other international standards of behavioUr and etiquette?

Dream on!

Stan

PS. Will the world ever forgive us for our many sins?

Ukap · 30-05-2006, 19:27

Stan - bought a phone here in Italy...thank you for your help. It works perfectly!!
Why is the USA so behind the times in cell phones & cars!!!

MATHA531 · 30-05-2006, 19:56

Let me start out by saying I'm not a technologically blessed person but just an end user who has acquired some knowledge by participating in this forum.

This business of the USA being "behind"; I brought up a while ago. Some have answered me something to the effect that while the USA participated in the decision to make gsm and the 900 frequency the prime mobile standards, they found that a lot of communications stuff was already on 900 and it would have been very expensive to change....nobody at the time dreamt of such things as everybody walking around with a mobile phone, international roaming and stuff like that. And the decision to use 800 as the auxilliary frequency (which is 850) for gsm carriers in the US was due to the fact that cingular already had licenses to operate on that frequency so that was that....it has become very nasty in terms of getting a hold of tri band phones that use 900/1800/1900. For a while T Mobile US carried such phones but now that 850 carriers exist in the USA and they roam on some of them, all their tri bands are the useless for European travel 850/1800/1900...I am most partial to Nokia phones, people tell me Moto phones suck so it is a problem for me to upgrade my phones.

Now as far as other things, other than driving on the left, the only reason the US doesn't want to join the 21st century is that there are a lot of dumb people in the USA who claim how much they would hate to have to standardize with the rest of the world...after all they know how long an inch is, imagine having to learn about cm. And the celsius thermometer, forget it; even though it makes much more sense. What do these people do when they turn on the telly say in the UK and hear the weather forecast for the morning says the high will be 10 degrees; some of them start looking for their winter coats (don't laught, I've seen it happen)...

Unfortunately not in our life time will the US join the rest of the world in these unmportant matters; so imagine they won't be joining so in things that do matter such as global warming.

Unfortunate but true.

terra · 31-05-2006, 20:31

Hi, this is my first time traveling abroad, and i would like to find out how does the setup fee with united mobile works when i use call back service, will I be charged it, or do they only charge for complited calls. :help:

Thanks.

TheMadBrewer · 31-05-2006, 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by terra

Hi, this is my first time traveling abroad, and i would like to find out how does the setup fee with united mobile works when i use call back service, will I be charged it, or do they only charge for complited calls.

It is only for completed calls. If properly used you won't use any call time with UM (assuming you are in a free incoming calls country).

terra · 01-06-2006, 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMadBrewer

It is only for completed calls. If properly used you won't use any call time with UM (assuming you are in a free incoming calls country).

is their a time limit for how many rings before they start charging.

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snaimon (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 898 Join Date: 17 Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA USA Country:	29-05-2006, 20:16 I am somewhat confused. The manual says this phone is 900 and 1800. I am asking myself how you could have used this phone in the US? US only has 850 and 1900. PERSONALLY, I don't think you have the 6800 but a counterfeit. If you can't find any networks in the manual network selection, then I think that means the receiver for those frequencies is not working or does not exist. Good luck. Stan Phones: DASH V3 (3) Service: US T-MO post paid (2) - US T-MO prepaid (2) - UM+ - TravelSIM DE SIMYO - DE SUNSIM T-Mobile DE Calling Cards: Onesuite Enjoyprepaid AT&T MCI Mobivox

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snaimon (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 898 Join Date: 17 Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA USA Country:	29-05-2006, 20:27 OK. 2nd try. There are 2 versions of the 6800, one for N America and one for Asia/Europe. I FIRST downloaded the manual for the Asia/Europe version. The North American phone is a dual band, 850/1900. That will not work in Europe. Sorry. I think you'll have to buy yourself an unlocked phone there. Stan Phones: DASH V3 (3) Service: US T-MO post paid (2) - US T-MO prepaid (2) - UM+ - TravelSIM DE SIMYO - DE SUNSIM T-Mobile DE Calling Cards: Onesuite Enjoyprepaid AT&T MCI Mobivox

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snaimon (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 898 Join Date: 17 Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA USA Country:	29-05-2006, 20:29 From a 6800 on sale on Ebay: NOKIA 6800 GSM Phone. This phone Can be used with any GSM service provider such as: Cingular, T-Mobile, AT&T, and ALL OTHER GSM networks around the world which support 850/1900 Mhz. ......................... Phones: DASH V3 (3) Service: US T-MO post paid (2) - US T-MO prepaid (2) - UM+ - TravelSIM DE SIMYO - DE SUNSIM T-Mobile DE Calling Cards: Onesuite Enjoyprepaid AT&T MCI Mobivox

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MATHA531 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 869 Join Date: 15 Oct 2004 Country:	29-05-2006, 23:25 This is an ongoing problem with nokia phones...they use the same model number for their world phones and the phones they cripple to make cingular happy and give them 850 service at the expense of 900 service...they make dual bands with 850/1900 for use in North America and 900/1800 for use in the rest of the civilized and uncivilized world. No matter...luckily op is in Italy...attention op go into any mobile phone store and ask for an unlocked dual band phone...they sell them in Italy for around ?30...you will see the UM sim will work perfectly. Sorry you had this trouble but it is a by product of the inability, probably for good reasons, of the USA to standardize with the rest of the gsm world 15 years ago.

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Ukap (Offline) Member Official Member Posts: 47 Join Date: 27 Apr 2006 Location: South Florida Country:	30-05-2006, 19:27 Stan - bought a phone here in Italy...thank you for your help. It works perfectly!! Why is the USA so behind the times in cell phones & cars!!!

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MATHA531 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 869 Join Date: 15 Oct 2004 Country:	30-05-2006, 19:56 Let me start out by saying I'm not a technologically blessed person but just an end user who has acquired some knowledge by participating in this forum. This business of the USA being "behind"; I brought up a while ago. Some have answered me something to the effect that while the USA participated in the decision to make gsm and the 900 frequency the prime mobile standards, they found that a lot of communications stuff was already on 900 and it would have been very expensive to change....nobody at the time dreamt of such things as everybody walking around with a mobile phone, international roaming and stuff like that. And the decision to use 800 as the auxilliary frequency (which is 850) for gsm carriers in the US was due to the fact that cingular already had licenses to operate on that frequency so that was that....it has become very nasty in terms of getting a hold of tri band phones that use 900/1800/1900. For a while T Mobile US carried such phones but now that 850 carriers exist in the USA and they roam on some of them, all their tri bands are the useless for European travel 850/1800/1900...I am most partial to Nokia phones, people tell me Moto phones suck so it is a problem for me to upgrade my phones. Now as far as other things, other than driving on the left, the only reason the US doesn't want to join the 21st century is that there are a lot of dumb people in the USA who claim how much they would hate to have to standardize with the rest of the world...after all they know how long an inch is, imagine having to learn about cm. And the celsius thermometer, forget it; even though it makes much more sense. What do these people do when they turn on the telly say in the UK and hear the weather forecast for the morning says the high will be 10 degrees; some of them start looking for their winter coats (don't laught, I've seen it happen)... Unfortunately not in our life time will the US join the rest of the world in these unmportant matters; so imagine they won't be joining so in things that do matter such as global warming. Unfortunate but true.

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terra (Offline) Junior Member Newbie Posts: 7 Join Date: 31 May 2006	31-05-2006, 20:31 Hi, this is my first time traveling abroad, and i would like to find out how does the setup fee with united mobile works when i use call back service, will I be charged it, or do they only charge for complited calls. :help: Thanks.