Piranha Mobile Sim Card

[DRNewcomb]

Originally Posted by davidtheprof

what really sets Piranha apart, in my view, is the VOIP integration -

Telna has the same type feature. In fact, you phone also has a SIP address. So, if you are in a place with WiFi access, anyone in the world can call you via VOIP and it's free for both of you.

[fsotirop]

Originally Posted by DRNewcomb

Telna has the same type feature. In fact, you phone also has a SIP address. So, if you are in a place with WiFi access, anyone in the world can call you via VOIP and it's free for both of you.

received answer email from their cc:

Dear Mr...,
we have looked into the Symbian dialler for you, unfortunately we cannot recommend any other at this time, only the ones listed on our website, however over the next 8-12 weeks we will be producing our own labelled versions of diallers which will support Android, IPhone, Symbian and Windows. We will update website as and when they become available



Regards from

Piranha Mobile Admin

[DRNewcomb]

Originally Posted by fsotirop

we have looked into the Symbian dialler for you, unfortunately we cannot recommend any other at this time, only the ones listed on our website, however over the next 8-12 weeks we will be producing our own labelled versions of diallers which will support Android, IPhone, Symbian and Windows. We will update website as and when they become available

Telna will also be of no help if you want to use any dialer except their supported Android one. However, I got their VOIP to work on my N8, which has a very complicated setup. This is much better than Tru, who keeps their VOIP settings a secret and dropped support for newer Symbian phones.

[Stu]

What I find interesting is where Pirahna's rates diverge from Telna's. The two SIMs have some stuff in common, but then you hit a country where the rates are hugely different. Kuwait is one example, but I noticed differences in the Carribean, etc.

[fsotirop]

yes, piranha has of course cheaper than telna rates.

[Stu]

In most places, but not all. My sister is in Russia this weekend and was using one of my roaming SIMs. Telna was signficantly cheaper than Pirahna, but I sent her with Pirahna because I though it was more reliable.

[fsotirop]

Originally Posted by Stu

In most places, but not all. My sister is in Russia this weekend and was using one of my roaming SIMs. Telna was signficantly cheaper than Pirahna, but I sent her with Pirahna because I though it was more reliable.

the cheaper international simcard for Russia is camelmobile..
standard rates: free incoming calls, eur.0,35 per minute for all outgoing calls, eur.0,69/mb data, eur.0,25 per sms
intranetwork rates (camelmobile to camelmobile) from Russia costs eur.0,18/minute.


if you also subscribe to the special voice bundle that includes also Russia, you get:


the first minute of outgoing call is charged according to standard rate (eur.0,35)
outgoing calls starting from 2nd minute – 0,185 EUR/min;
Bonus for incoming calls starting from 3rd minute – 0,02 EUR/min. credited daily.

The bundle is valid for 180 calendar days from the moment of activation.
Activation of bundle does not change any other rates.
Cost of bundle: 2,50 EUR. charged once on activation

I also think, not 100%sure, that you can even attach a Russian DID local number on camelmobile simcards.

[dg7feq]

Originally Posted by fsotirop

the cheaper international simcard for Russia is camelmobile..
standard rates: free incoming calls, eur.0,35 per minute for all outgoing calls, eur.0,69/mb data, eur.0,25 per sms

if you also subscribe to the special voice bundle that includes also Russia, you get:


the first minute of outgoing call is charged according to standard rate (eur.0,35)
outgoing calls starting from 2nd minute – 0,185 EUR/min;
Bonus for incoming calls starting from 3rd minute – 0,02 EUR/min. credited daily.

The bundle is valid for 180 calendar days from the moment of activation.
Activation of bundle does not change any other rates.
Cost of bundle: 2,50 EUR. charged once on activation

I also think, not 100%sure, that you can even attach a Russian DID local number on camelmobile simcards.

Telna is 9.9 us-ct/min inbound + on-net calls and 12.9 us-ct/min outbound to USA.
So for US users that is in my opinion the better solution.

[fsotirop]

Originally Posted by dg7feq

Telna is 9.9 us-ct/min inbound + on-net calls and 12.9 us-ct/min outbound to USA.
So for US users that is in my opinion the better solution.

yes for calling back only to US is cheaper, evethough incoming calls aren't free.

but does telna also charge local and federal US taxes?


http://www.telnamobile.com/index.php...189&country2=4
*Rates exclude local, state and federal taxes, as well as the federal USF charge, which are collected on behalf of different official agencies and billed as separate line items on your monthly bill.

· State and local taxes can range anywhere from 0 to 10% depending on where you live. · The USF (Universal Service Fund) charge is collected on behalf of the federal government to fund telecommunications in remote areas. Unlike other long distance providers who sometimes inflate the "USF fees", Telecom North America passes the USF charge straight through to its customers. Click here to see the current USF rate.

[DRNewcomb]

Originally Posted by fsotirop

yes for calling back only to US is cheaper, evethough incoming calls aren't free.

but does telna also charge local and federal US taxes?

Yes, depending on the address where your account is registered. I understand that if you use a foreign (non-US) address, there are no added taxes and fees.