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Default 24-12-2005, 20:08

http://callback.click4.com/

I have used the above company for a few years for some of my intl. calling from the U.S.
They now have (maybe always did but never noticed) a callback service. Unlike other CB services, the callback is triggered by the sending of an SMS, not by a call. Their rates are a LOT cheaper than CBW. (You can also trigger a call via email fm. a computer.)
One advantage to some here who use Riiing, it would avoid the problem some in earlier threads reported w. the phone ringing too soon. Since their rates a much less than CBW, the approx. 55?US cost of an SMS would be made up in a few minutes.

The main advantage would be to those who use prepaids in some countries.
It will be of great use to me in many countries. I am on an old T-Mobile plan where incoming costs 30?. Outgoing can cost me up to $1/min. or more. I would be able to make calls back to the states for 30 + 7 = 37?. I think i pay 35? for an SMS from overseas.

One advantage of this service is that you don't have to predetermine the number to be called back. The SMS goes to
"youraccountnumber@click4callback.com"
the subject is: "callme01144123456" [the number to be called.] Thus you can change that number just by changing the SMS you send.

...mike


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A/o Oct 20, 2013 no need for intl prepaid as T-Mobile U.S. includes voice roaming at 20/min (in and out)., unlimited text (in and out), and unlimited data in 140+ countries.

My Plan -[6 lines] U.S. T-Mobile unlimited minutes (incoming and outgoing), unlimited text, fast data on each line. that $145/mo. total! . (In U.S. no surcharge for calling a cell.) If a line exceeds 2G of data in a month, pay $10 more for that line. [That only happens a couple times/year.
   
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Default 24-12-2005, 21:36

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One advantage to some here who use Riiing, ..... Since their rates a much less than CBW, the approx. 55?US cost of an SMS would be made up in a few minutes.
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I beg your pardon! I don't see that the rates at callback.click4.com are cheaper than CBW. Can you cite and example?

I have Riiing and use CBW. Of course, no telling how long the low rate will remain.

Using the rate calculator at http://callback.click4.com/rates.asp with a callback from 423 6 to Germany the rates are as follows:

Description Country Code + Prefix Callback Rate
Germany 49 64.5?/min
Germany 49 + 1 96?/min
Germany 49 + 800 96?/min
Germany 49 + 900 96?/min

For Riiing to the USA it was 55 cents per minute.

At those prices, one should just dial directly from the Riiing phone.

Or have I done something wrong?

The rate @ onesuite.com to Riiing is 25 cents toll free, 23 cents local. Now that is not as low as CBW or Enlinea, but it still beats many.

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Default 25-12-2005, 00:44

I didn't like to disagree earlier, but so far I can't see any rates on there that undercut any of 4 or 5 other companies.
   
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Default 25-12-2005, 01:15

Stan -
You ARE Correct. Shouldn't have tried an analyis so early after getting up. As long as CBW has the low rates, that is the way to go.

I didn't use Riiing much because of the lack of a working VM. However, I did use prepaid a couple times in conjunction w. my T-M US phone with the old low incoming rates. I did give my Riiing SIM to a relative who made good use of it.

I, also, use onesuite.com (along w. www.tel3advantage.com). I stopped using click4prepaid.com for intl. calling only because their rates were higher to Costa Rica where i was calling a lot.
I need a service like Kall8 that will forward calls to my cel phone. As far as I know, Onesuite is only a dial-around LD service and doesn't offer call forwarding numbers like Kall8. If I lived where you do where, i gather, the local phone company offers call forwarding to intl. numbers, i would use that instead in conjunction w. a low cost LD carrier. Our LD carrier, IDT still charges only 9? to +423 numbers.
I assume Verizon is you local carrier as it is in D.C. Have you made use of their intl. CF option? Wouldn't that work for you? My call volume doesn't warrant a monthly Verizon line solely for the purpose of forwarding overseas. SBC/PacBell doesn't allow intl. CF.

How do you route incoming calls to Riiing or do you just use it for outgoing? It would seem to be more convenient to use a prepay and pay someone like Kall8 to forward to that number at around 30?/min. I gather Enlinea is an option, for the time being, to forward to Riiing -but for how long?

For those using callback to OTHER than Riiing, www.callback.click4.com is quite a bit cheaper than CBW. This is especially true on longer calls because you need to factor in the SMS charge (if using a cel).


CBW l
Land - Cel
Peru 30.7 - 44.5
UK 8.2 - 40.4
Australia 8.9 - 41.5
Costa Rica 21.6 - 26.4

Click 4
Peru 7 -32
UK 6-32
Australia 6.5 - 25
C. Rica 12.5 - 13

(You can't get prepay in C. Rica. Have to know someone who already has a C.R. cel phone to borrow. Think they can be rented as well.)

...mike


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My Plan -[6 lines] U.S. T-Mobile unlimited minutes (incoming and outgoing), unlimited text, fast data on each line. that $145/mo. total! . (In U.S. no surcharge for calling a cell.) If a line exceeds 2G of data in a month, pay $10 more for that line. [That only happens a couple times/year.
   
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Default 25-12-2005, 02:23

I know that a number of people have purchased phonelines from virtualphonelinec.om. Here is the shocker. Iconnecthere is listing .06 a minute to call all Lichtenstein numbers:

http://www.iconnecthere.com/NonMembers/eng...p?t=0&service=0

This rate cannot hold bu they do offer virtual phone numbers.
   
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Default 25-12-2005, 03:39

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I need a service like Kall8 that will forward calls to my cel phone. As far as I know, Onesuite is only a dial-around LD service and doesn't offer call forwarding numbers like Kall8. If I lived where you do where, i gather, the local phone company offers call forwarding to intl. numbers, i would use that instead in conjunction w. a low cost LD carrier. Our LD carrier, IDT still charges only 9? to +423 numbers.
I assume Verizon is you local carrier as it is in D.C. Have you made use of their intl. CF option? Wouldn't that work for you? My call volume doesn't warrant a monthly Verizon line solely for the purpose of forwarding overseas. SBC/PacBell doesn't allow intl. CF.

How do you route incoming calls to Riiing or do you just use it for outgoing? It would seem to be more convenient to use a prepay and pay someone like Kall8 to forward to that number at around 30?/min. I gather Enlinea is an option, for the time being, to forward to Riiing -but for how long?
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Mike,

I will try to answer but I think you are WAY beyond me. Onesuite is a dial around and you are correct that they do not offer call forwarding AFAIK. Verizon is indeed my local carrier but I have no experience with their intl call forwarding. I just don't need that or think I need that. I just let calls to the home phone go to voice mail; let work calls go to work voice mail; my US cell is mainly used for outbound calls -- propbably less the a dozen people on the planet know my # and usually I don't even have the phone on except to dial out. From the foreign location I then use either a local calling card or the Enjoyprepaid via local #, ATT. MCI or possible the Riiing phone with CBW to retireve the voicemails. Usually I am on vacation and there is nothing pressing that must be answered.

As noted, your circumstances must be quite different to need the call forwarding service. I don't have Enlinea so I cannot comment on that.

When we travel, we usually also are just making outbound calls, mainly locally (DE) and some to US. True, we can and do dial amongst ourselves (there are 2 - 4 of us in the family). Obviously, calling inbound to the Riiing apart from using CBW is somewhat expensive -- for example, D1 from Germany to any foreign country is $1.99 a minute.

I am sure there are others on the forum more knowledgeable than I on call forwarding. Perhaps they will help advise you.

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Default 25-12-2005, 03:47

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I know that a number of people have purchased phonelines from virtualphonelinec.om. Here is the shocker. Iconnecthere is listing .06 a minute to call all Lichtenstein numbers:

http://www.iconnecthere.com/NonMembers/eng...p?t=0&service=0

This rate cannot hold bu they do offer virtual phone numbers.
The $0.064 seems to be the PC to phone rate. The virtual calling card rate is $0.089 per minute. Still not bad. Both make no mention of calls to cell phones. USUALLY there is a disclaimer about rates to cell phones being higher.

"Virtual Calling Card is an option for your Broadband or PC To Phone that allows you to use your prepaid funds to make calls via toll-free numbers in 27 countries. Now, whether you're traveling, out for lunch of the internet is not available, your iConnectHere account will always be with you!"

Therefore, you must sign up for the PC to phone. Minimum $5.95 per month OR pay as you go with minimum $10 starting balance. For me this could be viable, but you do have to download software, etc.

Any experience with it?

Stan



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