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Przemolog 19-01-2006 20:59

Here we place an order (incl. credit card data):
http://www.09.is/orderform.php

And here is the action URL used after the form is submitted:
http://www.09.is/orderform_process.php

Moreover, it's possible to submit the form with any contents, even EMPTY, without any client- or server-side validation! All what is displayed is:

Form submitted...


Thank you !


What the hell is that??? :umm:

RTuesday 20-01-2006 01:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Przemolog
What the hell is that??? :umm:

I agree no security on credit cards is bad, but the lack of validation makes little difference. I think their current order process is to print out the orders every month or two (when they're reminded by somebody wondering where their card is).

They then send them over to Orate in the UK, who sit on them for a while even when reminded, and then eventually send them out by slow post. (in my case, they didn't even accept the credit card that was acceptable on the 09 form).

I wonder how many customers have jumped through these hoops so far, for a card with ZERO support that can't make outgoing calls in many countries where it is supposed to work... it must be a very small number.

Having said that, I'll be using the card again with callback in Mexico next week, saves a lot, and I won't be tempted to call direct (because I can't!) rather than callback for a quick call.

Stu 20-01-2006 02:22

My credit card allows me to generate a one-off number for transactions. I used one of those numbers when I made the purchase. My wife is using the cared in the UAE right now and it is way cheaper than any other way to make international calls in the UAE. It even beats the best contract plan. We obviously are using the same technique that you are.

Stu

maccoy 05-03-2006 10:16

I was going to buy a 09 starter pack but when I noticed that the form wasn't secure I decided to stop...
I think I will place my order on the Orate site, but I keep asking me what will I do when I'll need to recharge my 09 account.
In fact on the Orate site a 25? recharge costs about 30? and I don't like to spend more than the credit I will get.
I also noticed that on the 09 site the products have no price, so you will discover the surprise after the credit card will be billed.
I don't think this is a serious way to manage...

Przemolog 05-03-2006 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by maccoy
I was going to buy a 09 starter pack but when I noticed that the form wasn't secure I decided to stop...
I think I will place my order on the Orate site, but I keep asking me what will I do when I'll need to recharge my 09 account.

I think you can do this from 09 site:
https://topup.09.is/topup/

But to do this, you must register first:
http://www.09.is/orderform_topupregisteration.php
and it's again insecure one with mandatory fields for the credit card data :ranting:

Quote:

Originally Posted by maccoy
I also noticed that on the 09 site the products have no price, so you will discover the surprise after the credit card will be billed.
I don't think this is a serious way to manage..

I agree...

maccoy 05-03-2006 11:01

Thank you for the links.
Unfortunately they still ask to give my credit card data on an unsecure form. :ranting:
I think I will wait to buy a 09 card until they will get more serious (although I'm strongly tempted to buy one).
In the meantime I wrote to them asking a secure form or a french reseller...

DTele1 06-03-2006 18:32

I think that 09 is not really selling anything direct, they only take your credit card to pre-register you for their menu topup - http://www.09.is/orderform_topupregisteration.php

I filled in my information on 09.is and got an email from Orate the next day, so I gues that Orate is following up on their other sales leads.

OTOH - I found another site that offers the 09 cards, including reload codes by email - http://www.simphonee.com :thumbup:

Hope this helps,

maccoy 06-03-2006 18:34

I got an answer, not from 09 but from Orate...
It seems that they are the only reseller.
The thing I still don't understand is why should I pay in pounds a product that uses euros as official currency.
And they didn't answer my question: If I would like to use the direct top up I still have to register my credit card on an unsecure form?

Stu 06-03-2006 18:44

pharosint.com also sells the sim and recharges.

maccoy 06-03-2006 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTele1
OTOH - I found another site that offers the 09 cards, including reload codes by email - http://www.simphonee.com :thumbup:

Hope this helps,

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work...
Or am I wrong? :(


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