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snaimon 17-01-2006 02:57

Watch for two new offers starting Jan 18 2006 on the globalsim site. Nothing there now as I writte.

SOURCE:

http://groups.google.com/group/de.comm.anb...31de65b962b377/

EXCERPT:

GlobalSim Holiday

- volle Kostenkontrolle da Prepaid (vorausbezahlt)
- Vorwahl der Karte wird +447xx (Gro?britannien Mobilfunk) sein,
Erreichbarkeit per CalByCall schon ab 0,12?/min.
- in ?hnlich vielen, aber teilweise anderen L?ndern sind ankommende
Anrufe kostenfrei
- keine Verbindungsgeb?hr pro Gespr?chsaufbau
- abgehende Anrufe aus Deutschland ins dt. Festnetz 0,29?/min.
- abgehende Anrufe aus Zone 1 (Europa + Mittelmeeranrainerstaaten +
z.B. S?dafrika etc.) in Festnetze von Area 1 (?hnlich Zone 1) 0,39?/min.
- abgehende SMS 0,19? weltweit
- GPRS m?glich, 0,14?/10kB

GlobalSim Business

- g?nstigere Tarife + Zusatzservices (wie z.B. internationale Auskunft
und Hotelreservierungsservice) da Postpaid (Vertragsabschlu? mit 19,95?
Grundgeb?hr)
- keine Gefahr da? das Guthaben unterwegs aufgebraucht sein k?nnte, da
monatliche Abrechnung von Ihrer Kreditkarte
- Vorwahl der Karte wird +447xx (Gro?britannien Mobilfunk) sein,
Erreichbarkeit per CalByCall schon ab 0,12?/min.
- in ?hnlich vielen, aber teilweise anderen L?ndern sind ankommende
Anrufe kostenfrei
- keine Verbindungsgeb?hr pro Gespr?chsaufbau
- abgehende Anrufe aus Deutschland ins dt. Festnetz 0,25?/min.
- abgehende Anrufe aus Zone 1 (Europa + Mittelmeeranrainerstaaten +
z.B. S?dafrika etc.) in Festnetze von Area 1 (?hnlich Zone 1) 0,39?/min.
- abgehende SMS 0,15? weltweit
- GPRS m?glich, 0,14?/10kB

Your mileage may vary.....

Stan

0700700 17-01-2006 03:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaimon
Watch for two new offers starting Jan 18 2006 on the globalsim site. Nothing there now as I writte.

SOURCE:

http://groups.google.com/group/de.comm.anb...31de65b962b377/

EXCERPT:

GlobalSim Holiday

- volle Kostenkontrolle da Prepaid (vorausbezahlt)
- Vorwahl der Karte wird +447xx (Gro?britannien Mobilfunk) sein,
Erreichbarkeit per CalByCall schon ab 0,12?/min.
- in ?hnlich vielen, aber teilweise anderen L?ndern sind ankommende
Anrufe kostenfrei
- keine Verbindungsgeb?hr pro Gespr?chsaufbau
- abgehende Anrufe aus Deutschland ins dt. Festnetz 0,29?/min.
- abgehende Anrufe aus Zone 1 (Europa + Mittelmeeranrainerstaaten +
z.B. S?dafrika etc.) in Festnetze von Area 1 (?hnlich Zone 1) 0,39?/min.
- abgehende SMS 0,19? weltweit
- GPRS m?glich, 0,14?/10kB

GlobalSim Business

- g?nstigere Tarife + Zusatzservices (wie z.B. internationale Auskunft
und Hotelreservierungsservice) da Postpaid (Vertragsabschlu? mit 19,95?
Grundgeb?hr)
- keine Gefahr da? das Guthaben unterwegs aufgebraucht sein k?nnte, da
monatliche Abrechnung von Ihrer Kreditkarte
- Vorwahl der Karte wird +447xx (Gro?britannien Mobilfunk) sein,
Erreichbarkeit per CalByCall schon ab 0,12?/min.
- in ?hnlich vielen, aber teilweise anderen L?ndern sind ankommende
Anrufe kostenfrei
- keine Verbindungsgeb?hr pro Gespr?chsaufbau
- abgehende Anrufe aus Deutschland ins dt. Festnetz 0,25?/min.
- abgehende Anrufe aus Zone 1 (Europa + Mittelmeeranrainerstaaten +
z.B. S?dafrika etc.) in Festnetze von Area 1 (?hnlich Zone 1) 0,39?/min.
- abgehende SMS 0,15? weltweit
- GPRS m?glich, 0,14?/10kB

Your mileage may vary.....

Stan

i can still SEE IT !!!

please translate for me, im a bit stupid !

andy 17-01-2006 18:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0700700
i can still SEE IT !!!

please translate for me, im a bit stupid !

It looks like Globalsim is about to add new products to the UM/Riiing SIM it's been selling. But as it mentions free incoming roaming in plenty of countries, it doesn't appear to be GTsim; probably the same as the other IoM SIM

Przemolog 17-01-2006 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy
It looks like Globalsim is about to add new products to the UM/Riiing SIM it's been selling. But as it mentions free incoming roaming in plenty of countries, it doesn't appear to be GTsim; probably the same as the other IoM SIM

You mean 0044 Global or something like that?

snaimon 17-01-2006 23:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0700700
i can still SEE IT !!!

please translate for me, im a bit stupid !

Sorry if it is the wrong thread; hope webmaster will move it.

Brief synopsis:

Gobalsim Holiday tarif is PREPAID - uses 447XX # in UK reachable for 12 e-cents - in many countries inbound calls are free - NO setup fee -- calls to German and other land lines at 29 (39) e-cents / minute -- sms 19 e-cents - gprs 14 e-cents / kb.

Globalsim Busines is POSTPAID - contract 19.95 to start rates about the same except 4 e-cents cheaper on sms and calls to German land lines - never run out of minutes as you are billed post paid.

Stan

snaimon 20-01-2006 02:58

Start date is now supposedly Feb 1.

I see NOTHING at the poorly readable

www.gsm-prepaid.net

Stan

Effendi 20-01-2006 09:05

Their site is terrible, anyway it's just UM rebranded, but they sey it has no set-up fee, and I don't believe them very much...

sunflat 20-01-2006 10:47

You better check this link

Global Sim Deutschland Produkte

Some drawbacks:
Standard is CLIR: to change this they charge you EUR 15 to switch off CLIR

Anyway, we have to wait till February 1st.

Have a nice weekend.

herkdrvr 20-01-2006 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunflat
You better check this link

Global Sim Deutschland Produkte

Some drawbacks:
Standard is CLIR: to change this they charge you EUR 15 to switch off CLIR

Anyway, we have to wait till February 1st.

Have a nice weekend.

What is CLIR? Thanks.

Przemolog 20-01-2006 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkdrvr
What is CLIR? Thanks.

After a few seconds of googling :)

http://www.isdn4linux.de/faq/i4lfaq-29.html

andy 21-01-2006 02:10

I'll say it again - it looks like Globalsim has become an agent for the Isle of Man SIM, as sold by a few others.

Either that or it's a remarkable coincidence that the country lists are so similar

snaimon 21-01-2006 03:27

All:

the NEW page link above is VERY confusing. Right now, 2200 EST Jan 20, the main text tells me for instance 19 e-cents per SMS. The page CLEARLY says starting Feb 1. BUT.... blinking on the left in the middle it says ORDER NOW and SMS 15 e-cents.
Can this be serious?

Andy:

Here SMS is 19 e-cents v 9 with GT-SIM
Calls to German land lines 29 e-cents v 26 GT-SIM [blinking box say 25 e-cents!?]
Other calls to foreign destinations are stated @ 39 e-cents v 26-38 e-cents with GT-SIM

There are indeed similarities but there are differences, too.

At this stage I fully agree with the advice on teltarif about mobile phones --

1. if you DO bite on an offer, may sure you don't sink in too much and
2. keep to short term arrangements

Conditions are changing so fast it seems.... for the German, some other European (FR, CH recenbtly) and the international provider markets.

Consider those foolish folks who shelled out 60 Euros for Aldi starter kits on Ebay.de because they could not wait 3 weeks until the product came back on the market at 19.95! Of course they did not KNOW it would come back.

I (4 or us and all adults) won't be travelling until summer. I have 2 T-MO D1 cards, one with 0 balance and I may either sell that, just let it expire or renew it. It is a Viktor Vox thing and I am not sure if they will come after me to return the SIM card. I know that applies for POST PAID.

The best deal on the German market --- yes, we are OT here -- seems to be the Aldi product with 5 e-cents internal. BUT there are rumored to be other offers in the works. T-MO is matching the 5 e-cent rate, but there is an END DATE on that program -- actually, there was an earlier end date and it was revised to later. I would have to buy new cards as VV won't let me switch to Xtra Click&Go without paying an exhorbitant fee.

Stan

RTuesday 21-01-2006 17:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy
I'll say it again - it looks like Globalsim has become an agent for the Isle of Man SIM, as sold by a few others.

The Isle of Man sim is basically two products - postpaid (gt-sim) and prepaid (as sold by 0044). I don't know if the (new) globalsim product is the same, although the lack of Mexico roaming is a strong clue.

GT-sim and 0044 are provided and have some support by Callkey, in Castletown on the Isle of Man (in fact the 0044 product isn't even rebranded, it is the base "Callkeyone" card). Neither seem to bill for sms yet.

Przemolog 22-01-2006 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTuesday
GT-sim and 0044 are provided and have some support by Callkey, in Castletown on the Isle of Man (in fact the 0044 product isn't even rebranded, it is the base "Callkeyone" card). Neither seem to bill for sms yet.

Do you know any "native" Callkey webpage on which those IoM SIMs are described? I couldn't find anything via Google...

As to GlobalSIM, in the end of December, one guy on pl.misc.telefonia.gsm told that he had found some info suggesting that GlobalSim would start soon a new offer with 0.15 EUR/SMS. However, he thought that it would be just a decrease of the current 0.49 EUR rate from UM, not the change of the SIM/service provider from UM to Callkey(?)

RTuesday 22-01-2006 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Przemolog
Do you know any "native" Callkey webpage on which those IoM SIMs are described? I couldn't find anything via Google...

Callkey - www.callkey.com - don't seem to bother much with their own marketing, selling though dealers and resellers (they don't even have a price list for their callback product online!).

No mention of CallKeyOne there, but that's the name on the package of the 0044 product (and it says "welcome to Callkey" on the callback).

I know callkey are also involved with GT-sim because when it first came out I asked Manx Telecom who had that number range (and again one of the phone numbers on the GT-sim packaging is for Callkey's Castletown office).

So I expect there may well be more products derived from them soon.

Przemolog 22-01-2006 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTuesday
Callkey - www.callkey.com - don't seem to bother much with their own marketing, selling though dealers and resellers (they don't even have a price list for their callback product online!).

No mention of CallKeyOne there, but that's the name on the package of the 0044 product (and it says "welcome to Callkey" on the callback).

Yes, that's what I found and was rather astonished by poor info :). So, it seems they are simply "wholesalers", aren't they?

andy 22-01-2006 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTuesday
No mention of CallKeyOne there, but that's the name on the package of the 0044 product (and it says "welcome to Callkey" on the callback).

It is on one page - but not up to date - http://www.callkey.com/futureproducts.htm

the www.callkeyone.com site was inaccessible, but now diverts back to the CallKey one

bourbonkiller 01-02-2006 11:05

I've just called Globalsim office in Germany and asekd them some questions about the "Globalsim Business postpaid".

The simcards will arrive in the next 2 weeks to be deliverred. The monthly charge in my opinion is only to pay the free incoming calls throughout europe. Further the charge from Germany to Germany is 4 eurocent lower than with prepaid. This plan will be available for different countries in the future (asked for Austria since I live there).

It is a IOM-Mobile number, I asked for it. He told me the number range is +44 768....

BK

snaimon 26-02-2006 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by bourbonkiller
I've just called Globalsim office in Germany and asekd them some questions about the "Globalsim Business postpaid".

The simcards will arrive in the next 2 weeks to be deliverred.

............

Any update to your post of FEB 1... 25 days later!?

I am going to wait a while to figure out what, if any, new servie I should try to acquire for our upcoming summer trip. Just too much turbulence at this time.

TIA.

Stan

snaimon 04-03-2006 23:06

from telefon-treff.de dated March 1, 2006:

Butterbrom

Vorerst auf Eis

Zitat:Sehr geehrter Kunde,
entgegen unserer Planung, m?ssen wir leider den Starttermin der "GlobalSim Holiday" Prepaid SIM Karte um eine unbestimmte Zeit verschieben.
Dies kann sich aus internen technischen Gr?nden zwischen 4 und 8 Wochen bewegen. Ihnen bleibt jedoch die R?ckabwicklung Ihrer Bestellung frei. Bitte teilen Sie uns mit, ob Sie die von Ihnen get?tigte Bestellung r?ckabw?ckeln wollen oder solange warten m?chten. Alternativ bieten wir Ihnen die RIIING Karte an, die Sie danach umtauschen k?nnen.
Wir danken Ihnen f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis und erwarten Ihre Order.


Bis zur typischen Urlaubszeit ist es ja noch etwas hin. Ich werde erstmal r?ckabwickeln.

bb

============

long and short..... due to for internal technical reasons the new GlobalSim Holiday is delayed from 4 to 8 weeks.... They suggest the Riiing card as alternative.

Stan

moua 17-03-2006 18:40

On http://www.globalsim.net/US/index.php?p=8
you can top-up a 0044-7624- number

Look like they are moving to UK number.

PS : this is my first post here, i hope to find the right informations here and help people here too with tips :)


snaimon 17-03-2006 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by moua
On http://www.globalsim.net/US/index.php?p=8
you can top-up a 0044-7624- number

Look like they are moving to UK number.

PS : this is my first post here, i hope to find the right informations here and help people here too with tips :)

Welcome aboard!

It is NOT clear from your link what you mean by "[they are moving to UK number.]

Their SIM still seems to be a United Mobile number country code 423....

It was THOUGHT that the "new GlobalSim Holiday" would be something DIFFERNT. Do you have a better link for that product? Last we heard was my note that this product would be DELAYED.

Stan




snaimon 25-03-2006 20:21

The German home page says their new SIMs will be available starting in May of 2006.

Please check later.

Stan

albino 26-03-2006 03:41

I know global sim were moving away from UM a few months ago ... as were all distributors, they cannot survive with the new UM strategy. It seems the Callkey product is the best bet at the moment as a general Global sim ... so many of the old UM distributors have moved in that direction, with a couple taking a risk with the unreliable 09 (but improving).

Call key have free incoming calls, but as we all know there is no such thing as free incoming calls ... it costs the providers, but the hide that to make the service attractive. Nothing beats FREE INCOMING CALLS. To offset the cost, they make the outgoing calls more expensive. So Call Key distributors try to offset their incoming costs by having a small monthly bill, thus making it possible to have cheaper outgoing calls. I know that Callkey use two systems for triggering a call ... which makes them more reliable on that front. (some countries stop triggering from occuring in the normal way .. thus blocking callback)

snaimon 26-03-2006 03:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by albino
I know global sim were moving away from UM a few months ago ... as were all distributors, they cannot survive with the new UM strategy. It seems the Callkey product is the best bet at the moment as a general Global sim ... so many of the old UM distributors have moved in that direction, with a couple taking a risk with the unreliable 09 (but improving).

Call key have free incoming calls, but as we all know there is no such thing as free incoming calls ... it costs the providers, but the hide that to make the service attractive. Nothing beats FREE INCOMING CALLS. To offset the cost, they make the outgoing calls more expensive. So Call Key distributors try to offset their incoming costs by having a small monthly bill, thus making it possible to have cheaper outgoing calls. I know that Callkey use two systems for triggering a call ... which makes them more reliable on that front. (some countries stop triggering from occuring in the normal way .. thus blocking callback)

What new UM strategy? Selling the SIMs on their own site?

albino 26-03-2006 03:58

Yes ... the started with using distributors to get the ball rolling ... and then ditched them when they thought they were big enough.

But many saw it coming as UM has a bad reputation in the telecom world.

Sadly their new sales force havent been able to get the sales ... they were hoping to sell direct to other big companies like easyjet, or thomas cook ... along those lines. But thier unethical behavior has burned their bridges with their old distributors, not many want to deal with them anymore.

So now you will see them pushing hard to advertise ... this is their attempt to go global ... and many believe they will fail ... as Callkeys strategy to look after their distributors in their nich markets seems to be working.

But time will tell... it may work.


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