iPhone

snaimon · **iPhone -** 13-06-2007, 16:47

What do you think? Will it flop or be a hit in USA? To be offered exclusively with ATT. Of course, time will tell.

PERSONALLY, I would not switch even if the iPhone were free.

Stan

KPO'M · 28-06-2007, 04:11

It will sell out, because Apple has that kind of power. It isn't a bad product, although it isn't as cutting edge as Apple would have everyone believe. The main innovations are the UI and the multi-touch screen. Most other features are ho-hum, and I suspect iPhone 2 will be a much more complete device (GPS, 3.2 or 5mp camera, TV-out jack, 3G) that are lacking in the current version.

powerlifter · **I Phone -** 28-06-2007, 11:35

I also understand that the sim card can not be removed. This makes the phone useless if you want to go to Europe. I also understand that the battery has to be recharged. There is no replacement battery for the phone. I wonder what happens if you have a bad battery.

DRNewcomb · 28-06-2007, 12:41

So far, I've seen a lot of hopla but not much in the way of details. I'm not sure what it does that every other "smart phone" does not also do.

snaimon · **battery -** 28-06-2007, 15:02

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Originally Posted by powerlifter

I also understand that the sim card can not be removed. This makes the phone useless if you want to go to Europe. I also understand that the battery has to be recharged. There is no replacement battery for the phone. I wonder what happens if you have a bad battery.

It is reported that owners will be able to send in their phones to Apple for a replacement phone FOR A FEE.

I guess I am not the cool type. I conducted a very unscientific poll @ work and only 1 in about 15 was interested in the iPhone. The one person interested was turned off by the non-replaceable battery. I am not sure he even considered the full price-tag, minimum ~ $60 / month for 24 months for the plan.

Stan

DRNewcomb · 29-06-2007, 02:52

Another point against the iPhone is that it seems that it will only run software you download from AT&T. That means no Google-Maps, smsBug, etc. When you spend >$500 for the iPhone you are jusr buying a straight-jacket.

Stu · 29-06-2007, 17:24

According to Steve Jobs announcement, the phone ships with Google Maps. You can run programs coded to Web 2.0 -- which means dumb widgets. I doubt it will support VOIP, but I think you could make an SMS widget.

The phone has an external SIM card slot, so I doubt the Sim Card cannot be removed. The phone will be released tonight. I'd just wait until Tuesday of next week and then start reading. Tonight's impressions will be all over the map and people will make a number of good faith mistakes.

Bossman · 30-06-2007, 00:01

The sim card can definitely be removed. See here...

http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/.../iphone05.html

KPO'M · 03-07-2007, 07:32

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Originally Posted by Bossman

The sim card can definitely be removed. See here...

http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/.../iphone05.html

The SIM can be removed, but the phone has taken SIM-locking to the next level. Even other AT&T SIMs can't be used in it (although iPhone SIMs can be used in other phones). Bottom line - it's not the phone for someone looking to use it in Europe without paying exorbitant roaming rates.

Stu · 03-07-2007, 16:29

I think if you want that kind of phone, get the HTC Touch.

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snaimon (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 900 Join Date: 17 Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA USA Country:	iPhone - 13-06-2007, 16:47 What do you think? Will it flop or be a hit in USA? To be offered exclusively with ATT. Of course, time will tell. PERSONALLY, I would not switch even if the iPhone were free. Stan Phones: DASH V3 (3) Service: US T-MO post paid (2) - US T-MO prepaid (2) - UM+ - TravelSIM DE SIMYO - DE SUNSIM T-Mobile DE Calling Cards: Onesuite Enjoyprepaid AT&T MCI Mobivox

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KPO'M (Offline) Junior Member Amateur Member Posts: 22 Join Date: 26 Jun 2007 Country:	28-06-2007, 04:11 It will sell out, because Apple has that kind of power. It isn't a bad product, although it isn't as cutting edge as Apple would have everyone believe. The main innovations are the UI and the multi-touch screen. Most other features are ho-hum, and I suspect iPhone 2 will be a much more complete device (GPS, 3.2 or 5mp camera, TV-out jack, 3G) that are lacking in the current version.

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powerlifter (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 128 Join Date: 06 Jan 2005 Country:	I Phone - 28-06-2007, 11:35 I also understand that the sim card can not be removed. This makes the phone useless if you want to go to Europe. I also understand that the battery has to be recharged. There is no replacement battery for the phone. I wonder what happens if you have a bad battery. [size=2]Prepaid cards, Moldova Tempo, Kyrg Republic BiTel, India Hutch, Bulgaria Mtel, Vodafone, UK. Etsalat. UAE. Afghan Wireless, Afghanistan. T-mobile post-paid. Phones Gsm Nokia 6230, N73, E-71 HTC Google 2

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DRNewcomb (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Professionist Posts: 1,253 Join Date: 27 Feb 2004 Location: Mississippi, USA Country:	28-06-2007, 12:41 So far, I've seen a lot of hopla but not much in the way of details. I'm not sure what it does that every other "smart phone" does not also do.

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DRNewcomb (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Professionist Posts: 1,253 Join Date: 27 Feb 2004 Location: Mississippi, USA Country:	29-06-2007, 02:52 Another point against the iPhone is that it seems that it will only run software you download from AT&T. That means no Google-Maps, smsBug, etc. When you spend >$500 for the iPhone you are jusr buying a straight-jacket.

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Stu (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 886 Join Date: 11 Feb 2004 Location: Dubai (& Detroit) Country:	29-06-2007, 17:24 According to Steve Jobs announcement, the phone ships with Google Maps. You can run programs coded to Web 2.0 -- which means dumb widgets. I doubt it will support VOIP, but I think you could make an SMS widget. The phone has an external SIM card slot, so I doubt the Sim Card cannot be removed. The phone will be released tonight. I'd just wait until Tuesday of next week and then start reading. Tonight's impressions will be all over the map and people will make a number of good faith mistakes.

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Bossman (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Guru Posts: 1,117 Join Date: 22 Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Country:	30-06-2007, 00:01 The sim card can definitely be removed. See here... http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/.../iphone05.html Phones: Iphone4, HTC Inspire, Nokia E63, BB Curve 8310 Sim cards: AT&T (Contract), Tmobile USA, Virgin UK, TelnaMobile, Ekit

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Stu (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 886 Join Date: 11 Feb 2004 Location: Dubai (& Detroit) Country:	03-07-2007, 16:29 I think if you want that kind of phone, get the HTC Touch.