Generating a Codice Fiscale

chwilliam · **Generating a Codice Fiscale -** 18-03-2008, 03:13

Are there any actual legal implications to generating a codice fiscale in order to get a SIM card? Would it be a "hey, your number doesn't appear valid, sorry I can't give you service" or a "I've pressed the button under the counter, please wait for the authorities"? Just wondering if I should be ready to run

It just seems iffy generating a government code, or is the codice fiscale not that big of a deal?

**Effendi** · 19-03-2008, 12:05

Well, if you are not a terrorist it's not that big of a deal!

chwilliam · 19-03-2008, 23:27

So I'm not likely to get arrested/etc?

Malkav · 20-03-2008, 00:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by chwilliam

So I'm not likely to get arrested/etc?

No...but tell you what if your that intrested in getting arrested...let me know and i will see what i can do for you ok?

:-p :-p

**Effendi** · 20-03-2008, 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by chwilliam

So I'm not likely to get arrested/etc?

No, I really think no, unless you are Bin Laden's friend!

Motel75 · 20-03-2008, 16:21

You can get a real CF quite quickly and easily, just visit a tax office. (I don't know if they do this for US visitors, but I think they do).

wco81 · 19-05-2008, 07:42

OK I tried the web page (http://www.comuni.it/servizi/codfisc/) linked on the Italy page and get this error:

ATTENZIONE

Il numero generato corrisponde alle regole del D.M. del 12.3.1974
Non si può avere l'assoluta certezza dell'esattezza del codice perché nel raro caso in cui il sistema genera due codici identici (caso di due persone con nome e cognome molto simili, nati lo stesso giorno, nello stesso comune), il Ministero delle Finanze provvede alla sostituzione di uno dei numeri con una lettera progressiva.

What am I missing?

**Effendi** · 19-05-2008, 09:02

That means that it's not the "legal" way to get a CF and you cannot be sure at 100% that your "real" CF would be exactly the same. As Motel75 said if you want to be sure you have to go to a tax-office in Italy (usually at the city hall or some other office), but that's not so important if you need the CF just for a prepaid card...

wco81 · 19-05-2008, 14:40

Actually, it doesn't return a CF at all. It says:

ERRORE: dati incompleti

Then lists the values I entered and then the longer sentence I posted earlier.

wco81 · 20-05-2008, 03:52

OK, I got one, but had to change the birth country.

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chwilliam (Offline) Junior Member Newbie Posts: 2 Join Date: 18 Mar 2008 Country:	Generating a Codice Fiscale - 18-03-2008, 03:13 Are there any actual legal implications to generating a codice fiscale in order to get a SIM card? Would it be a "hey, your number doesn't appear valid, sorry I can't give you service" or a "I've pressed the button under the counter, please wait for the authorities"? Just wondering if I should be ready to run It just seems iffy generating a government code, or is the codice fiscale not that big of a deal?

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Effendi (Offline) The great Dictator! Prepaid Prophet Posts: 2,330 Join Date: 13 Jan 2004 Location: Genova & Sarzana Country:	19-03-2008, 12:05 Well, if you are not a terrorist it's not that big of a deal! Working Prepaids: IT: Wind, Vodafone IT, UNO Mobile; SM: Prima; UK: 3, Virgin; INT: TravelSIM, Truphone. Deceased Prepaids: CZ: Oskar, Eurotel; SK: Orange; DE: E-Plus, Aldi, Simyo; GE: Geocell; AM: Armentel; PL: Heyah, Plus; LT: Tele2; LV: Amigo; EE: Elisa; UA: Kyivstar; NZ: Vodafone; INT: UM, UM+, ICQSim. GSM/3G Phones: Nokia E71, HTC Wildfire

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chwilliam (Offline) Junior Member Newbie Posts: 2 Join Date: 18 Mar 2008 Country:	19-03-2008, 23:27 So I'm not likely to get arrested/etc?

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Motel75 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 482 Join Date: 15 Jun 2006 Location: Berlin Country:	20-03-2008, 16:21 You can get a real CF quite quickly and easily, just visit a tax office. (I don't know if they do this for US visitors, but I think they do). Current DE: Solomo (0172), Lidl Mobile, Netzklub; PL: Heyah; UK: Giffgaff; US: T-Mobile (212, 931); IT: Vodafone Former DE: Vodafone, T-Mobile, O2, Blauworld, 01051mobile, Solomo, Vistream, Simyo, Congstar; PL: Era, Sami Swoi, Orange, POP, iPlus, Heyah, Carrefour Mova, Telepin Mobi, Play; UK: Vodafone, T-Mobile, Virgin; US: T-Mobile, AT&T CZ: Vodafone, Oskar; ES: Lebara; GR: Vodafone, Wind; TR: Turkcell

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wco81 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 129 Join Date: 17 Jun 2007 Country:	19-05-2008, 07:42 OK I tried the web page (http://www.comuni.it/servizi/codfisc/) linked on the Italy page and get this error: ATTENZIONE Il numero generato corrisponde alle regole del D.M. del 12.3.1974 Non si può avere l'assoluta certezza dell'esattezza del codice perché nel raro caso in cui il sistema genera due codici identici (caso di due persone con nome e cognome molto simili, nati lo stesso giorno, nello stesso comune), il Ministero delle Finanze provvede alla sostituzione di uno dei numeri con una lettera progressiva. What am I missing?

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Effendi (Offline) The great Dictator! Prepaid Prophet Posts: 2,330 Join Date: 13 Jan 2004 Location: Genova & Sarzana Country:	19-05-2008, 09:02 That means that it's not the "legal" way to get a CF and you cannot be sure at 100% that your "real" CF would be exactly the same. As Motel75 said if you want to be sure you have to go to a tax-office in Italy (usually at the city hall or some other office), but that's not so important if you need the CF just for a prepaid card... Working Prepaids: IT: Wind, Vodafone IT, UNO Mobile; SM: Prima; UK: 3, Virgin; INT: TravelSIM, Truphone. Deceased Prepaids: CZ: Oskar, Eurotel; SK: Orange; DE: E-Plus, Aldi, Simyo; GE: Geocell; AM: Armentel; PL: Heyah, Plus; LT: Tele2; LV: Amigo; EE: Elisa; UA: Kyivstar; NZ: Vodafone; INT: UM, UM+, ICQSim. GSM/3G Phones: Nokia E71, HTC Wildfire

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wco81 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 129 Join Date: 17 Jun 2007 Country:	19-05-2008, 14:40 Actually, it doesn't return a CF at all. It says: ERRORE: dati incompleti Then lists the values I entered and then the longer sentence I posted earlier.

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wco81 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 129 Join Date: 17 Jun 2007 Country:	20-05-2008, 03:52 OK, I got one, but had to change the birth country.