Current Nokia Symbian phones?

[DRNewcomb]

Does anyone have a current (recent) Nokia Symbian phone. I'm considering getting an E6 or E7 to replace my old E61 but would like to ask a couple questions. Primarily, is the VOIP client better at transiting NAT boundaries than the original Symbian VOIP client? I asked this question on HoFo and no one responded.

[TH3ORY]

Does anyone have a current (recent) Nokia Symbian phone. I'm considering getting an E6 or E7 to replace my old E61 but would like to ask a couple questions. Primarily, is the VOIP client better at transiting NAT boundaries than the original Symbian VOIP client? I asked this question on HoFo and no one responded.

Dude Nokia is dead they dont make any good phones any more its all about Apple Samsung Htc & Motorola these days :) dude dont waste you money on Nokia get an Android smartphone and trust me you will never look back :)

[DRNewcomb]

Dude Nokia is dead they dont make any good phones any more its all about Apple Samsung Htc & Motorola these days :) dude dont waste you money on Nokia get an Android smartphone and trust me you will never look back :)We have one Motorola Android phone. It has to stay plugged into the charger constantly and won't run J2ME applications.

[Bossman]

I agree. Androids just chew battery like thee is no tomorrow. On my 4.3 inch screen HTC inspire, the screen uses the most % of the battery.

I have a Nokia E63 and the voip client works well and is well integrated. Don't know about the technical details you asked....sorry.

We have one Motorola Android phone. It has to stay plugged into the charger constantly and won't run J2ME applications.

[DRNewcomb]

I have a Nokia E63 and the voip client works well and is well integrated. Don't know about the technical details you asked....sorry.The primary problem with the original E61 VOIP client is that it didn't know how to get out from behind a router, where the router assigns a local (e.g. 192.168.X.X) rather than a global IP address. This means that it was just about useless in many situations. I've tried some other VOIP clients and have not been able to get them to install on the E61.

I'm looking for a phone that is quad-band GSM with at least UMTS Bands I, II, IV & V (2100, 1900, AWS & 850). I'm not thrilled with touch screens and prefer having a keyboard. I don't need to play Angry Birds and don't really want to have Apple or Google watching over my shoulder 24/7. The E6 or E7 seem to meet all my requirements and I'm familiar with Symbian. If someone knows of something better and cheaper I'm happy to listen to suggestions.

[TH3ORY]

We have one Motorola Android phone. It has to stay plugged into the charger constantly and won't run J2ME applications.

Have you ever tried rooting it ??? it makes so much difference on the battery life ???

[DRNewcomb]

I'm also thinking about the Dell Venue Pro Windows 7 phone. One problem is that it seems almost impossible to get reliable information about this phone. No one seems even to be able to agree on what UMTS bands it has. How are Windows phones as communications tools. Do they tend to be terribly crippled by vendor customizations?

[Bossman]

I tend to believe GSMArena when it comes to phone specs.

Dell Venue Pro - Full phone specifications (http://www.gsmarena.com/dell_venue_pro-3280.php)

I'm also thinking about the Dell Venue Pro Windows 7 phone. One problem is that it seems almost impossible to get reliable information about this phone. No one seems even to be able to agree on what UMTS bands it has. How are Windows phones as communications tools. Do they tend to be terribly crippled by vendor customizations?

[andy]

The primary problem with the original E61 VOIP client is that it didn't know how to get out from behind a router, where the router assigns a local (e.g. 192.168.X.X) rather than a global IP address. This means that it was just about useless in many situations. I've tried some other VOIP clients and have not been able to get them to install on the E61.


I'm not expert on the most recent models, but I never had any problems like that with an E51

Works on my home wifi and several others, and fine with its own client or Fring Nimbuzz or Dellmont/Betamax MobileVoip (older version)

I've also used MobileVoip on my X6 in some wifi zones

So I assume from that that later models would be ok, but I gather that some models maybe either don't have the built-in VoIP client any more or it's a bit harder to find - not quite sure which, or may depend on market area?

[Bossman]

Same here - MobileVOIP works flawlessly on my E63 using the built in voip client. Fring and Nimbuzz also work fine on it.

[PhotoJim]

I have an E63 and I've never had any luck configuring the VoIP client. Can anyone point me to any websites that help, or give me some suggestions? I use les.net and voip.ms and have had no luck configuring most softphones or configuring hardware ATAs like the Linksys PAP2T.

[Bossman]

I did not have any problems setting it up for voipcheap. Here is a setup instructions, you just plug in appropriate settings as needed. Below that is another one from the Nokia support forums.

Nokia E63 SIP Settings VoIP Setup SIP Client Configuration (http://www.voipvoip.com/nokia/e63.html)

http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Eseries-and-Communicators/E63-SIP-VOIP-Settings/td-p/525829

[DRNewcomb]

I tend to believe GSMArena when it comes to phone specs.

Dell Venue Pro - Full phone specifications (http://www.gsmarena.com/dell_venue_pro-3280.php)Turns out there are two versions of the Venue Pro: T-Mobile's had UMTS 900, 2100 & AWS. ATT's had 850, 1900 & 2100. So, neither of these satisfy my minimum requirements. According to GSMArena there are 27 phones that do, most of which are Nokia.

[masterofdisaster]

After readin @Bossman's instructions it was easy to install voipcheap!

Much appreciated

[DRNewcomb]

I finally broke down and bought a Nokia N8. So far, my impressions are mixed. First, it's small. I look and my old E61 and people with iPhones and current Android phones and ask myself, "Why do they carry that shingle around with them?" OTOH, I'm pretty disappointed by the paltry number of worthwhile apps for Symbian^3 (Nokia Belle). The company who offered PPTP VPN and other networking apps for earlier Symbian phones has discontinued development for the current Symbian platforms. While Skype runs on Belle, they don't support video chat, so I'm not sure what good that front-facing camera does. I can't get Fring to work but Nimbuzz seems to. It took a bit of doing but SIP VOIP is working. Their IMAP mail client is good enough but slightly dumbed down from the one on the E61. (It does not allow you to ignore the IMAP Inbox folder but assumes that you always want to see that folder.)

My reasons for buying the N8 were various but one of the critical requirements was to have UMTS bands I, II, IV & V. The list of phones that did this was fairly short and mostly Nokia. The one or two Motorolas and handfull of Samsungs that had this feature were over US$500, new, while the N8 was US$270.

[Stu]

I loved my Symbian phones but moved to a jailbroken iPhone because of the lack of apps. I'm grandfathered on ATT's iPhone international data plan and put a prepaid or roaming SIM in an old Nokia E66. If I were going to buy a new unlocked phone, I'd think about the Galaxy Nexus S.

I was reading the specs over the Nokia Lumina 920 and it looks like it supports a number of LTE bands. I'm wondering if we see a new LTE world phone anytime soon.